Mud Blaster II to be released...............?

[dabigbozz]

Hi folks,

came across this bit of interesting info today and thought you might like it:

http://tamiyablog.com/2011/09/tamiya-58514...uture-releases/

Kit# 58514

enjoy.

dabigbozz

[B.M.T.]

Good spotto.

Now, someone has to ask:

If they are going to rerelease the Mudblaster as was, with the exceptions of the easily ejected dogbones, why:

1. ...not put the Blackfoot 3 on that chassis, since the body fitted it.

2. ...and it looks as though the Monster Beetle nuts are going to have to wait.

[MadInventor]

Photo is an old pic of the original mudblaster. If it does get a re-re, I suspect it will be the BFIII chassis with brat shell and twin det tyres, possibly wheels as well. note that it said Mud Blaster II, not Mud Blaster re-re.

[markbt73]

I'm sure it will be on the nu-monster chassis, and I would expect a Monster Beetle 2 in the same formula before long.

But which body will it use, Lexan or styrene?

[Wandy]

Surely it has got to be on the BF3 chassis. If they bring it back on the original ORV I will began to think that there is someone in Tamiya HQ that has a vendetta against the old Blackfoot & Monster Beetle.

[SteelRat]

Thing is, if the Mud Blaster IS released on the BF3 chassis, the way things have gone that will mean 2 models per chassis would have been fulfilled and the Monster Beetle 2 won't happen.

If that is the case, I'm doubly amazed. Firstly at the fact that the second car was the Mud Blaster and NOT the Monster Beetle, and secondly that there could never be a Monster Beetle re-re!

[Saito]

I often wondered if Tamiya just felt the original Blackfoot chassis wasn't simply too flawed to rerelease. Folks that raced them heavily in the 80's will remember how much quicker the parts wore out on them over the Frog. On the other hand the Hot Shot had its share of flaws and we got a re-re so who knows? If they are willing to slam a Blackfoot shell on the too-long 2WD "Dagger" chassis, they'll have no qualms doing the same with the Brat shell. As far as the beloved Monster Beetle goes I think putting that shell on the Dagger chassis might be too musch a stretch for even Tamiya. I also wonder if a MB re-re might be out of the question for the same reason we've not seen a Fox or Super Shot...the gold plated wheels and their fragility (although admittedly they did do a gold Lunch Box).

[mobias]

The guy at Tamiyablog says that photo was provided by Tamiya and he believes the chassis will be the original ORV one.

[Wandy]

The guy at Tamiyablog says that photo was provided by Tamiya and he believes the chassis will be the original ORV one.

If that is definitely true then the Monster Beetle has got to be nailed on for a re-release. Maybe they just want the Blackfoot lineage to continuously evolve in a forward thinking manner but are prepared to "regress" with the others that shared the chassis, eg Monster Beetle, Mud Blaster etc....

[spudtrooper37]

Really do hope its on the original chassis

Great for restoring Monster Beetles:- Chassis and front shock tower/body mount

[markbt73]

If that is definitely true then the Monster Beetle has got to be nailed on for a re-release. Maybe they just want the Blackfoot lineage to continuously evolve in a forward thinking manner but are prepared to "regress" with the others that shared the chassis, eg Monster Beetle, Mud Blaster etc....

That's an interesting thought. There has been something with the Blackfoot name on it in production since 1987, with maybe a short gap here or there. And really, the Dagger/Xtreme chassis is a good basher; it just needs massive amounts of horsepower to make it interesting. So you have the 'Foot 3 carrying on the proud tradition of a black Ford truck you can abuse, and a re-re 'Blaster (and Monster Beetle? Fingers crossed) for the nostalgia crowd. Makes sense to me. Here's hoping you're right.

[mtbkym01]

That's an interesting thought. There has been something with the Blackfoot name on it in production since 1987, with maybe a short gap here or there. And really, the Dagger/Xtreme chassis is a good basher; it just needs massive amounts of horsepower to make it interesting. So you have the 'Foot 3 carrying on the proud tradition of a black Ford truck you can abuse, and a re-re 'Blaster (and Monster Beetle? Fingers crossed) for the nostalgia crowd. Makes sense to me. Here's hoping you're right.

I cant keep up, still got a Brat, Stadium Blitzer, Pajero, FAV and SR2011 on my list, now it looks like a Mudblaster or Monster Beetle will be added.

[SteelRat]

The guy at Tamiyablog says that photo was provided by Tamiya and he believes the chassis will be the original ORV one.

Let's hope what he believes is right, but only from the point of view of getting a Monster Beetle re-re. I'd have still prefered an MB re-re without an original gearbox, but something stronger instead, but I guess we'll have to wait and see with the release of the Mud Blaster.

[Retro rules!]

If that is definitely true then the Monster Beetle has got to be nailed on for a re-release. Maybe they just want the Blackfoot lineage to continuously evolve in a forward thinking manner but are prepared to "regress" with the others that shared the chassis, eg Monster Beetle, Mud Blaster etc....

I think you've hit the head on the nail mate. Re-release the Mud Blaster first before the big Monster Beetle re-re is how this (hopefully) will play out. As you say, the Blackfoot is going through another incarnation and won't get the re-release. It looks like Tamiya's strategy is re-release the less popular model first then the big one. E.g. Buggy Champ- Sand Scorcher, FAV- Wild one, Stadium Blitzer- Blitzer Beetle. Of course this has not always been the case as the Hotshot came before the Boomerang.

[mobias]

Let's hope what he believes is right, but only from the point of view of getting a Monster Beetle re-re. I'd have still prefered an MB re-re without an original gearbox, but something stronger instead, but I guess we'll have to wait and see with the release of the Mud Blaster.

Any Monster Beetle re-re would have to be as close to the original as possible for me to buy it. I presume if the Mud Blaster is indeed on the original ORV chassis then they'll do something to beef up the weak points like they did with the Avante, Hotshot etc. In some ways its a no brainer for them to re-re the Mud Blaster and then in six months time re-re the Monster Beetle. Both will sell really well and both are pretty much just parts bins for stuff that is already in production.

Of course this has not always been the case as the Hotshot came before the Boomerang.

I guess you could say the Hotshot was technically the less good model though.

[Retro rules!]

I guess you could say the Hotshot was technically the less good model though.

Very true. The thing that is throwing me off being a re-release is the "Mud Blaster II" title. Really hope it isn't put on the Dagger chassis. While i don't mind it, you need to throw a bunch of money at it to make it half decent. ORV chassis all the way for me.

[matman]

If it comes out original chassis etc for the monster beetle , mud blaster , this may be why the BF3 body still has the original holes in it ??.

So it can be changed to black foot if you want .

On the other hand Mud Blaster II makes it NOT original , But may have same chassis as super B,foot ? .

[Retro rules!]

Yes I agree but remember if this is released on the ORV chassis, the Frog and Subaru Brat have already been released and thus the difference between this and the Monster Beetle’s popularity are irrespective. Of course this is all speculation but I think the wheels are the issue, both bodies are available, what else could it be (assuming the ORV chassis is used and the Monster Beetle gets a re issue second (or fourth) of course)??

Not really sure to be honest. Judging by some of the more recent rereleases, in particular the avante and fav, Tamiya don't seem to be too bothered reproducing original parts. Seeing as a reasonable amount of parts are already in production, you would think a mud blaster/monster beetle re-release on the orv chassis would be feasible. But we have been saying that for the last 5-6 years now so who knows!

[Wandy]

The fact that this is to be a Mud Blaster 2 tells us for sure that, one way or another, it won't be exactly like the original. Assuming that it is indeed coming back on the ORV then it would seem that the transmission is the clue to why they are promoting it as a Mk2 version. This probably means that the gearbox from either the King Blackfoot or Blackfoot Xtreme is going to be utilised in some way. What this also means is that we will see a Monster Beetle 2, rather than the original name being re-introduced.

The gold plating of wheels does not seem to be an issue since the Gold Lunchbox has them therefore it is reasonable to expect that the same can be easily done with the Monster Beetle wheels.

There does not seem to be any cast iron pattern to which model they re-release 1st from a chassis since the Hornet came before the Grasshopper, the Frog before the Subaru Brat and, as already pointed out, Hotshot came before Boomerang. In those three instances the most popular car got re-released before the less popular one.

I don't think the two-per-chassis rule counts for much anymore these days either. The re-release scene is very different now to what it was a few years ago. It has gone from being a niche in the RC portfolio into something that is now dominating it, therefore Tamiya are seemingly no longer concerned about tip-toeing around with these kits; it has become a relentless onslaught driven IMO by strong demand for them allied to a faltering worldwide economy.

[Mad Ax]

I'm hoping for an ORV release, and if so, I'll buy one. I was never a huge fan of the ORV, but the Mud Blaster was my first NIB Tamiya, and it will be a real chance to re-live those memories. However, I do hope they use the KBF gearbox, since it was a much better design. I really regret getting rid of my lexan-brat-bodied KBF a couple of years ago.

However, it's entirely feasible that the Mud Blaster II will be on the BFX chassis. I have no problem with the chassis itself - I've had a few and they are brilliant for bashing with only a few hopups. However, the longer wheelbase never looks right and the Brat shell will be wasted on it, IMO.

I'm also working on the theory that Tamiya are hoping collectors will buy the Mud Blaster II in absense of a Monster Beetle, but will then buy the Monster Beetle when it's re-re'd next year, because it was the one they wanted. If they were to release the Beetle now, people wouldn't bother to buy the Mud Blaster next year because it was never as sought after. IMO, the same happened when Tamiya re-re'd the RR/Buggy Champ before they re-re'd the Scorcher.

The future is bright

[B.M.T.]

Yeah, they have proven to release the less popular version first.

[MadInventor]

The guy at Tamiyablog says that photo was provided by Tamiya and he believes the chassis will be the original ORV one.

He's pulling your chain

It'll be a BFIII body swap job.

[mobias]

He's pulling your chain

It'll be a BFIII body swap job.

Yeah possibly. I still don't see why they can't do a faithful-ish re-re. Almost all of it is currently in production in some form or other.

[Yonez]

+1 for an ORV chassis with the weak points sorted.

My old MB is so worn and broken I break an irreplaceable piece on almost every run. And I've had to drill up every single screw hole and use machine screw with nuts to make the parts stick together.

I'll buy this the moment is out and give my MB a gut-transplant if it does come out on the ORV chassis.

I also want to buy a chrome brat chassis and paint it with translucent red paint to get a red chrome chassis.

Seems I need to start saving up my money for upcoming ORV cars and parts.

[SteelRat]

If an "ORV with the weak points sorted" is basically a King Blackfoot / Bush Devil chassis, and what gets released, not only will I be the happiest man on earth, but one of the smuggest :)