hilux hilift or bruiser ?

[sabreuk1]

hey up guys quick question the mrs is nattering at me ref Christmas and ive suggested the hilux hilift she said get it ordered winner wasn't expecting that response at all but a little confused.com

whats the difference from the high lift hilux and the bruiser and why the massive difference in price with the two vehicles?

ive told the mrs the hilux hilift but was just curious what the differences where.

or do I go for the tundra or the f350 and why?

thanks guys craig

[sabreuk1]

just had a look on tamiyas site and ive noticed the chassis difference but still not sure as to why the bruiser is so expensive compared to the high lift chassis?

[waterbok]

depends on what you want to use them for, shelver, scaler, crawler, basher. will it stay clean or get realy dirty. ride it hard and so on...

biggest difference, bruiser has a load of metal parts (axle, gearbox) higlifts are more plastic, hence pricing.

Imo bruiser is the better looker, for driving in dirt I take my SCX or CR01

[sabreuk1]

it will mostly be a shelfer with the occasional outing bud, theres no rc clubs near me to get it dirty on regular basis and I think I woud get bored going out on my own with it all the time. same story for the tl01 ive just rebuilt. I will probably be tame with it in driving style im not keen on thrashing anything and having to keep fixing it when something breaks for 5-10mins fun lol (experience speaking there )

unless there is anybody local in east Yorkshire near hull that would like a get together.

[MadInventor]

IMO the tundra looks the best of the 3 Hi-Lifts, if I was going t obuy another one then that would be it. The bruisers high price is contributed to by the fact it has metal axles, and sports a more complex chassis design. It also a more sophisticated gearbox with epicyclic gears, so would be a more challenging build. Given it's extra cost though, I'd still by a Hi-Lift.

[B.M.T.]

The Highlift would be more durable for beating around, plastics have a bit of bounce in them, pot aluminum just cracks.

Also, the Highlift is full time 4WD, the Bruiser only has it in 1st.

To me, even with it's odd track width, the Bruiser is 10X nicer to look at, but fitting some nice 120mm/5" 2.2" tyres (even stock Bruiser items) and wheels to your taste (HPI make oodles to a budget, or some alloy units) makes a world of difference to the Highlift Hilux.

[sabreuk1]

ah ok thanks guys, so can the bruiser gearbox etc be fitted to highlift for example and the metal axles etc or are they separate things?

on the body I do like the look of both hilux and tundra I might just say to the mrs surprise me see what turns up

[XV Pilot]

ah ok thanks guys, so can the bruiser gearbox etc be fitted to highlift for example and the metal axles etc or are they separate things?

They don't bolt straight on AFAIK, but with a few scraps of aluminium, a file and some creative thinking, I think they migjt be persuaded to fit.

Although if you fancy improving the performance of your hi-lift, take a look at the Junfac suspension upgrades.

[waterbok]

rcchannel highlift alloy axles those look nice too.

[SteveU30]

Sorry to thread hijack but you've just inspired me to get one of these myself for Xmas too.

I'm drawn to the Tundra after seeing this at Fusion Hobbies: http://www.fusionhobbies.com/product/j10028-junfac-4-link-suspension-conversion-for-tundra but does anyone know if this black one is an off the shelf kit or is it sporting lots of Junfac stuff?

I especially like the wheels/tyres, what are they?

[sabreuk1]

lol steve I cant answear your question as im a high lift virgin for the next 80 sleeps however I think im leaning towards the hilux to be honest for the only reason that I used to own one and had many a fond memory of it esp as I used it off road aswell for many things like green laning trips and off road sites etc with the group I was with it was a gen 2 hilux surf with 33" tyres on you can tell by the pics but they are 33" bfg at ko fitted. and you also cant tell that it had a 2" body lift on until you park it next to a standard one and see the difference, heres my beasty anyway

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[Shodog]

The bruiser is a totally different animal to the high lift. I have a few of each one and I like them for different reasons.

My high lift with MFU is a blast to run. It's a durable chassis and the integrated sounds and lights add true realism.

The bruiser looks ten times cooler. The scale realism far surpasses the high lift. The axles and trannies in the originals were never up to task and wore out on a regular basis. I hope they addressed those issues in the rere

[Tamiya1/10]

To throw some cold water on the topic...get a Gelande 2 .

Since you are more of looker, I would go with the Brusier at a higher price. If price is an issue than Thundra would be my 1st choice, 2nd would be F350 and last the Hi Lux, reason for Hi Lux to be my last choice? It doesn't look right if left stock. The wheels are just too small and the chassis came from another vehicle.. It your money and is your shelve so is you call in the end.

[sabreuk1]

cheers Tamiya, im not keen on the wheels on the lux either so I would change them to something nicer. moneys not an issue realy at the min might be once ive bought everything the mrs wants for xmas which dwarfs the cost of either the high lift or bruiser :-/ lol

on the high lift is there any common issues with the running gear or anything that needs addressing like the bearings for example? or any recommended mods to be done on the initial build rather than having to strip it later to replace the standard items?

[Sonic0620]

I own a F350 Highlift and love it, great build, fun to modify. Honestly the sky is the limit on what you want to do. Mine is completely modified with JunFac parts and RC4wd parts. I've even modified some Clod wheels to fit on my truck. These are great trucks, I put a lathe motor in mine and it really slowed the truck way down. Stay with the stock silver can if you want some wheel speed. Other than that these are tough trucks. Oh ya do not lock front diff unless you are really going to crawl with it. I have spools in mine and it really killed the turning raduis.

[SteveU30]

Sorry to thread hijack again but it's kinda relevant.

I'm pretty certain I'm going for the Tundra myself as Banzai are selling it for an absolute steal, my only worry is that it seems too cheap at £180 plus shipping compared to the like of Stella who are almost £100 more for the same thing.

Is Banzai reliable as most of their prices seem stupidly low?

http://banzaihobby.com/radio-control/tamiya-rc-cars/tamiya-kit-set-electric-off-road/toyota-tundra-high-lift-3spd

[TongueTied]

Banzai are pretty good and I would say there is anything amiss with their pricing. The one thing you do have to watch with Banzai Hobbies is the shipping. Once you add it on, you may find Stella is cheaper. But, if they have a sale then go for it!

I too think the Tundra is the one I would go for of the 3 Hilift kits. If I did get one, I think I would cut it down to a single cab like Wyoming did here. However, I was making a similar decision a year ago and ended up getting a RC4WD Trailfinder 2. The scale realism for a Hilux is really outstanding.

[XV Pilot]

I like the looks of the fullsize Tundra, but the scale and proportions of the model worry me a bit. The real Tundra is a seriously big piece of kit, and Tamiya have had to take some considerable liberties with the shape to fit it onto the Hi-lift chassis. If you would like a model that sticks closely to the original, the Hilux would be better.

[SteveU30]

I like the looks of the fullsize Tundra, but the scale and proportions of the model worry me a bit. The real Tundra is a seriously big piece of kit, and Tamiya have had to take some considerable liberties with the shape to fit it onto the Hi-lift chassis. If you would like a model that sticks closely to the original, the Hilux would be better.

I used to think that but then I saw this on the Junfac site and I changed my mind:

[fristajlo]

Sorry to thread hijack again but it's kinda relevant.

I'm pretty certain I'm going for the Tundra myself as Banzai are selling it for an absolute steal, my only worry is that it seems too cheap at £180 plus shipping compared to the like of Stella who are almost £100 more for the same thing.

Is Banzai reliable as most of their prices seem stupidly low?

http://banzaihobby.com/radio-control/tamiya-rc-cars/tamiya-kit-set-electric-off-road/toyota-tundra-high-lift-3spd

Ordered a 350 and a tundra from banzai. Much faster delivery than Stella and way cheaper in total. But as someone already wrote, keep an eye on the shipping cost if ordering multiple items. And don't add small items when ordering a kit. Better to split the order. Will definitely use banzai again.

[bromvw]

I used to think that but then I saw this on the Junfac site and I changed my mind:

Hard as Nails - I LIKE THAT !!!!!!

[XV Pilot]

I used to think that but then I saw this on the Junfac site and I changed my mind:

It might not look exactly like a fullsize Tundra, but it certainly looks stylish!

[SteveU30]

Just spotted this video which shows a Tundra against a Bruiser, the Tundra sure looks weedy sitting on that wheel/tyre combo. Deffo putting some 2.2s on mine!

[XV Pilot]

That certainly makes the Tundra look tiny by comparison, whereas a fullsize one would dwarf a fullsize Hilux. Odd that Tamiya sell the Tundra as a 1/10 scale model - if we take the Bruiser to be 1/10, the Tundra would be closer to 1/12.

[TongueTied]

SteveU30, Did you end up buying from Banzai? What was the shipping cost? I was just looking at getting a kit from them and the shipping for just the single kit, no extras, was more than double the cost of the kit.