what would happen.....

[camy67]

If i was to put a brushless esc and 4300kv motor in a dt02? Just itchin to see .

[Percymon]

It'd be quick, so would definitely need some CVA dampers, smaller steel pinion, preferably universal drive shafts. You'd probably want alloy front C hubs too, plus front shock tower cross brace.

Best read the DT-02 tuning guide, it details pretty much all you need or could do with a DT-02 for racing purposes so most will apply..

http://www.thercracer.com/2013/10/tamiya-dt02-guide-mods-tuning-and-tips.html

[SteveU30]

You'd also need a lot of grip so tyres appropriate to the ground you're running on are a must!

The motor is pretty enclosed with no air flow on the DT-02 so keep an eye on temps and if they get too high drill some holes in the plastic motor surround of the gearbox to get some air in there. There are heatsinks available for the DT-02 but they are pretty small as they only fit on the end of the can.

[shenlonco]

With the DT02 gear box probably over heat your motor I would go with a 3000KV that's what's in all mine.

[alfagta]

having run a 7.5 ( around 5150 kv) and 120a esc in my holiday buggy i found it was fine , abviously , as mentioned , ball races, and some oil filled dampers with a steel or brass pinion and not forgetting a battery that can happily supply the esc with what it needs and its all good,

the main thing that happened was ,' it was super quick ' , way too quick as if i had crashed i think it would have disintegrated , i did run the punch setting at its second to lowest as the front end was constantly in the air and it helps keep the temps down (not that it got hot , just warm) , i also used some well scrubbed tyres as too much grip may have caused huge grip rolls or even a damaged gear box ,

have fun

[camy67]

Ok, its ball raced,shock braced, has good motor ventilation and its a 60a esc, and oil shocks, apart from that its stock.

[shenlonco]

I still say your motor will get way to hot

[alfagta]

Ok, its ball raced,shock braced, has good motor ventilation and its a 60a esc, and oil shocks, apart from that its stock.

you may find the esc wont be happy with a 9.5 , for off road , especially grass , a 13.5 is about as low a wind as i would go for with a 60a , up it too an 80a or higher and you will be fine , you could give it a go as hobbywing , yeah racing and a few others are a touch under spec'ed , my yeah racing 60 a handled an 8.5 in my team c 2wd buggy on a cool day but shut down in mid summer.

[camy67]

Its a sky rc combo package. Was hoping to get my first bl system with my limited funds, not sure now.

I believe its a 380 motor in a 540 sized can.

[alfagta]

Its a sky rc combo package. Was hoping to get my first bl system with my limited funds, not sure now.

I believe its a 380 motor in a 540 sized can.

whats your budget and , do you need it to be waterproof ?

[camy67]

The package on ebay is at16 quid with a day or so left. I can waterproof if needed. Have you something in mind?

[alfagta]

you may balk at them but the hobbyking 120a esc ,http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__56464__Hobbyking_174_X_Car_120A_Brushless_Car_ESC_sensored_sensorless_UK_Warehouse_.html , are amazing , grab the usb programmer , http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__56469__USB_Programming_Adapter_for_Hobbyking_X_Car_120A_60A_ESC_UK_Warehouse_.html ,with it and you can take your pick of motors to end up with a system that can litterally rip the tyres off a car or be a tame smooth runner , i have quite a few (7)of them now and they have taken endless abuse for over a year without the slightest blip , its a shame they are not waterproof but i run them in the wet with tight fitting body cars such as my 2wd buggies , you could have a full system for around £50 that smokes castle sidewinders etc , worth considering

[camy67]

Budget would be 20-25

[alfagta]

keep you eye on the skyrc system , even with the little motor they are still quite fast in lighter cars such as 2wd buggies , way quicker than a silver can brushed set up .

[camy67]

Will do. Also looking at hobbyking stuff, thanks.

[camy67]

Ok, taking the esc you mention and the usb, add a 12t 3300 turnigy trackstar. Any good?

[shenlonco]

with the DT02 I found the 3000KV motors are just fine for this buggy if you get a standard 540 sized motor they will run a little cooler because they have more power so you can probly go up on the KV rating... on the 380 size 3000KV is what I use ...I had a 3900KV in one time and it got way to hot.

[Percymon]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=121390107017

[camy67]

Saw that percy, think its a 380 in 540, coz of the grooves. Looks pretty much same as the sky rc combo, i think. Btw....what does it mean by inrunner?

[Percymon]

In runner is a standard motor set up with the rotor running inside the magnets. Out runner motors are more for helis and planes where the outside can spins

[Yonez]

Inrunner means that the rotor rotates.

Outrunner means that the can rotates.

You can't use outrunners in cars, but in planes they are popular.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrunner):

Outrunners spin much slower than their inrunner counterparts with their more traditional layout (though still considerably faster than ferrite motors) while producing far more torque. This makes an outrunner an excellent choice for directly driving electric aircraft propellers since they eliminate the extra weight, complexity, inefficiency and noise of a gearbox.

I also think the rotating can will cool more efficiently in an aircraft.

[camy67]

Learning every day, cheers

[Percymon]

Outrunner means that the can rotates.

You can't use outrunners in cars, but in planes they are popular.

I've used outrunners in cars before with no issues whatsoever - i ran a small 450 sized , 3300kV one in my Gmade R1 - in the end it was too fast and torquey even as a rock racer on 2S - wheelies galore !

It was cool watching the can rotating

[alfagta]

Ok, taking the esc you mention and the usb, add a 12t 3300 turnigy trackstar. Any good?

yip , superb combo, and the esc will take almost any motor at a later date should you wish for more speed , you will also have a large choice of firmware options with the pc connection , and near infinite adjustment of the esc should you find its getting too hot just turn the timing and boost down until you have a happy setting .

[camy67]

Good stuff, thanks