XV chassis: do you think that it has been successful?

[Butler]

Yes. The rear suspension wishbones and mounts are the same across all. I think the front gearbox and suspension is the same with ff04 and xv01.

I think the gearbox on the ff03 is like the trf201

[taliesin]

What's the deal with the long shock version? It would seem like the rally crowd would prefer that one, and yet it seems to be lower spec and much cheaper than the rally pro version? The pro version should be the top spec right? If so, I wonder why it doesn't have the longer shocks? Or maybe that is for truck bodies?

[kontemax]

Yesterday I quickly searched on the net for all XV01 versions but didn't find a list.

Do you have the list of many version of this chassis has been released?

Basic? Pro? Rally Spac? TRF?

I realy didn't follow a lot this model so I need to know something more, I would like to have a new rally/drifter car. My TA02 is retired now.

Many thanks.

Max

[Mokei Kagaku]

Do you have the list of many version of this chassis has been released?

58526 XV-01 PRO Chassis Kit (XV-01)

58528 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti '08 Team Arai (XV-01)

58552 Asterion (XV-01T)

58558 XV-01 PRO Touring Car Chassis Kit (XV-01TC)

58562 Subaru XV (XV-01)

58569 Lancia Delta HF Integrale (XV-01)

58573 GAZOO Racing TRD 86 (XV-01)

84375 XV-01 Chassis Kit Long Damper Spec (XV-01)

[kontemax]

Many models but few versions of the chassis, just the normal version, the touring version and the truck version (that has not the longer dampers... why?)

Max

[Raman36]

They were released in this order:

1. XV01 Pro and XV01 standard

2. XV01 TC

3. XV01T

4. XV01 Long Damper Spec

The long damper spec was released after the truck.

My guess is we will next see the XV01 TC II which will have the 418 style arms

[Raman36]

Regarding the RCCrawler forum. If you take the time to read the various threads in the forum, you will learn that the XV01 is their hands down favourite chassis for Rallye.

Someone mentioned broken parts.. And another person aptly responded, if you drive anything hard enough, parts will break.

The guys on RCCrawler beat the living Day lights out of the chassis in rally racing and still love the XV01. That says a lot

I have ran my XV01 on an 1/8 scale truggy track, with huge jumps and the car walked away without a problem. I travelled with my XV01 to South Brazil and ran the car with a 10.5 brushless motor on a 1/5 scale track and did not break a single part. I moved to Las Vegas and raced the car on asphalt against XRays, and it kept up.

I'm still running the original belt, original plastic pulleys. I have not had a single broken part on this chassis.

The only changes I have made were the carbon reinforced suspensions blocks that Butler mentioned. The stock plastic is too soft and it gives. notice i said it gives, not breaks.

I recently bought a TB04 Pro II to use in the parking lot races and have broken multiple parts on it.. So go figure.

Bottom line, the XV01 is a fantastic chassis. You won't know until you own one.

[kontemax]

So, for Rally purpose do you think is better buy directly the Long Damper Spec?

Max

[AndyForbes]

If I was buying now, then the Long Damper Spec would be the version I went for. It includes the standard J-parts so you have the option of making it a 'Normal' XV01 by fitting standard sized touring car damper pistons and springs.

Long damper Spec doesn't increase the maximum ride height. You can use Part V2 instead of V1 on standard dampers and you will get to the maximum ride height which is around an Inch, after then the suspension arms hit the chassis, and the steering turnbuckles start to hit the suspension mounts. I've installed Short Ball nuts on the steering rack and Knuckles to minimise this. It may not be an issue on the Long Damper Spec as this runs standard turnbuckles with the adjuster nut at the ends, rather than the blue turnbuckles installed on the pro which have a larger nut in the middle which is what rubs the suspension mounts.

[kontemax]

This is curious. So, why the longer dampers?

Max

Long damper Spec doesn't increase the maximum ride height.

[AndyForbes]

I assume to allow you to add longer dampers with more stroke which may help on landing jumps. The dampers on the long damper edition still use the same damper bodies as a standard XV01, so whilst they have a longer rod and end, they still have the same stroke as the standard dampers.

[Raman36]

So, for Rally purpose do you think is better buy directly the Long Damper Spec?

 

Max

Ciao Max,

I personally feel the XV01 and XV01 Pro are perfect for rallye. With the longer shock ends and rallye tyres the car has plenty of ground clearance.

In my opinion if you require more ground clearance, than you need an off-road buggy, not a rallye chassis.

To that point, I don't understand the need for the long damper spec. It does not add suspension travel. It has a taller shock tower mount and gives longer shock shafts, so you can use buggy front springs. However it does not add shock volume capacity. On top of that, you have I bruti ammortizzatori in plastici.. Am me non piacciono per niente.

[bromvw]

I assume to allow you to add longer dampers with more stroke which may help on landing jumps. The dampers on the long damper edition still use the same damper bodies as a standard XV01, so whilst they have a longer rod and end, they still have the same stroke as the standard dampers.

In theory that means that when the damper bottoms out ie at full compression then more clearance is maintained . However assuming that the correct springs are used the damper should never reach 100% compression because at that point in effect it becomes a solid link ?

correct me if i'am wrong buts thats my understanding of the function of dampers , to reduce the undulations of the spring .

[taliesin]

What is the benefit of the rally pro chassis over the regular kit ? Pro kit you get some blue aluminum bling and TRF shocks but no motor, no body, no esc. Regular Kit you get black CVA shocks, motor, esc, body but no bling. Pretty substantial price difference when you figure the cost of a finished car.

Usually with the pro kits I can see the advantages but this one seems like the regular kit gives you everything you need plus some. Unless the aluminum motor mount and TRF shocks are THAT much better to justify the difference in cost. Figure in a motor, esc, body and that's quite a difference.

EDIT: I overlooked universals for the Pro kit - and that is a pretty big item, but still. Am I missing something else?

[berman]

I don't think you get an esc with any xv-01 kit, taliesin.

Pro:

*42102 TRF Special Damper (Hard Black Coating)

*53642 5mm Aluminium Ball Connector (Blue)

*51000 Hi-Torque Servo Saver (Black)

*F/R Gear Differential (am unsure if this is still the nylon version)

*Aluminum turnbuckle (Blue)

*Reinforced drive belt

*Full ball bearings (although theses come with every xv-01)

And by the looks of it the kitsets with bodies have a slivercan, the pro, tc and long damper are sans motor.

I would like to know how different the dampers are between the long spec and the truck. Both supposedly have longer dampers...

[taliesin]

You're right Berman, I misread the descriptions. None of them come with an ESC. As for the silvercan motor - meh, I've got a box of them somewhere NIP. It's probably for the best that a kit like this comes without since most people will just replace them anyway.

I'm getting more tempted to buy one of these even though my location isn't ideal for rally cars. I've got motors, ESC, body shells galore, etc. I just wonder if the Pro kit is worth the extra $$. Bling isn't my thing, but ... metal motor mount, better shocks and universals are functional upgrades.... (I can sell myself on anything it seems )

[Grastens]

You're telling me! I was thinking of the stock XV-01 even though I would only use it as a touring car!

I see some going for ridiculous prices online right now, as in ridiculously-cheap...

[berman]

You're right Berman, I misread the descriptions. None of them come with an ESC. As for the silvercan motor - meh, I've got a box of them somewhere NIP. It's probably for the best that a kit like this comes without since most people will just replace them anyway.

I'm getting more tempted to buy one of these even though my location isn't ideal for rally cars. I've got motors, ESC, body shells galore, etc. I just wonder if the Pro kit is worth the extra $$. Bling isn't my thing, but ... metal motor mount, better shocks and universals are functional upgrades.... (I can sell myself on anything it seems )

I'm with you mate. I was learning in another open window as I was copying and pasting, I figure if it is posted here we all can learn from it and make informed decisions.

silvercan = lol in one of these I suspect And I thought I saw extra alloy on the motor mount but didn't see it in the blurb...

I would like one also but not sure on which to get, either long spec or truck I think but hoping someone here knows the difference in the dampers (apart from the shock towers).

[kontemax]

I also suppose that XV-01 conceptis designed for the lightweight Li-Po batteries. This justifies the side battery position.
I yet have Ni-Mh batteries so, with them, I believe the car would not very well balanced...

Max

[kontemax]

Ciao,

not even I like the brutti ammortizzatori in plastica

Max

I bruti ammortizzatori in plastici.. Am me non piacciono per niente.

[Raman36]

I also suppose that XV-01 conceptis designed for the lightweight Li-Po batteries. This justifies the side battery position.

I yet have Ni-Mh batteries so, with them, I believe the car would not very well balanced...

Max

Actually it is a little light on the battery side. When I used it for asphalt racing, I added weight to battery side to balance the car out

[Raman36]

I usually go for the Pro kit because, I end up upgrading to CVDs and TRF shocks. So the cost of the Pro kit is justified to me.

[kontemax]

If I will buy the XV01 probably will buy the Long shocks version. intended for rally purposes.

Max

[Raman36]

You can also pick up the Pro, buy the longer spec towers, longer shock pistons and buggy front springs. That way you have the CVDs and TRF shock bodies Which independently would be more expensive than the shock tower, pistons and springs.

[kontemax]

Yes, that's right.

Max