Monster beetle tyre alternates

[smiffffy]

Hi guys can anyone tell me if the 2.2 hpi sand thrower rear tyres #4412 will work ok on the MB I notice they are only 103mm whereas the MB pin tyres are about 124mm.

Also the # 4453 front line tyres or the #4457 sand runners.

I know these will fit the 1/10 superstar MT hex rears and front 2 wheel drive wheels from HPI but would they fit the standard MB or BF wheels.

Anybody tried for alternat tyres on their MB a from hpi.

I am assuming the hpi superstar fronts will fit the MB front axles ok?

Have asked hpi directly but they say they don't know if they will fit and be ok on a tamiya model and to ask local model shops? Not sure they would know either so it leads me to the experts on Tamiya Club.

I am trying to find any tyres for the MB that give a similar look to the sandscorcher but obviously bigger tyres and give a much better sand handling

Cheers in advance for

any advice.

[Backlash]

I see no reason why the 2.2 inch HPI "Truck" tyres wont fit on the Monster Beetles 2.2 inch rims/wheels..

The HPI star wheels used to come with a set of adaptors (I don't know if they still do) that would allow you to fit them to various cars such as the RC10, Losi, and Tamiya..

Also be aware that the Monster Beetle wheels have a very deep dish or offset, and I think the offset on HPI wheels is closer to the centre..

[smiffffy]

Does anyone know if the hpi superstar mt will fit the monster beetle axles, have tried hpi and now several model shops that sell the wheels but all say they don't know.

Don't really want to buy a set and then have the , is it the offset problem, where the wheel isn't deep enough and touches the steering knuckles.

Has anyone fitted them to an MB , do the 2 wheel drive wheels normally fit the tamiya axles?

Cheers

[bugone]

I've used Lunchbox tyres on my 2.2 rims. They stretch nicely, give lots of traction and are tighter to the rim (so no slippage).

1.9 tyres stretched to 2.2 rims.


The rear wheels are easy, you can fit any standard 12mm hex wheel. The fronts are more difficult as you need wheels that fit a bearing.

I modified my front end with different hubs that fit the bearings inside the hub. I used a trimmed down set of rear MB axles for the front.. That way I can fit any standard 12mm hex wheels on the front and back.

Modified hubs

[mastino]

Does anyone know if the hpi superstar mt will fit the monster beetle axles, have tried hpi and now several model shops that sell the wheels but all say they don't know.

Don't really want to buy a set and then have the , is it the offset problem, where the wheel isn't deep enough and touches the steering knuckles.

Has anyone fitted them to an MB , do the 2 wheel drive wheels normally fit the tamiya axles?

Cheers

HPI SS MT directly mounted on MB axle (via HPI adaptator packet with rims) or using alternative Tamiya alu adaptor (on the rear axle). HPI SS MT fit lunchbox tires and 2.2 proline tires as for exemple MASHER.

HPI SS MT have different reference for Front and Rear; you MUST have the front rim if you want to fit bearing inside.

[smiffffy]

Many thanks guys for the feedback on the hpi ss mt wheels, it's given me something to aim for if I want to get some nicer looking wheels on my bug .

My overall goal though is to get a bit more push and grip on sand and am really wondering whether the sand thrower and sand runners would look ok on a monster beetle chassis and more importantly perform ok. Similar to the sandscorcher but in a monster truck style.

The monster beetle pin spikes are about 124mm in diameter but the hpi tyres I like above are 102mm, so I would be losing 20mm of diameter.

Any info on what this size of wheel would look like would be appreciated, anyone got an MB picture with smaller tyres around the 102mm mark.

Also what difference would putting 20mm smaller tyres on the MB chassis and standard gold 2.2 wheels have on performance, will it work with the gear set up that I assume is designed for use with large wheels, or would it just run like a frog?.

Would the MB gear box handle the extra force of a paddle tyre which I am thinking will put more of a strain on the gears.

Cheers Smiffffy

[bugone]

The Frog uses a different pinion. It's a 16T, so the gearing is quite different from the MBs 10T. You can do the same by removing the motor mount and using a 16T pinion.

Alternatively, get one of these and you can run any sized pinion you like.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-Blackfoot-Adjustable-Motor-Mount-Kit-w-Gear-Cover-Frog-Monster-Beetle-/301505176118?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46331be236

Personally, I think a stock Monster Beetle looks odd with smaller tyres. Big tyres look great, but make it (even) less stable.

[njmlondon]

It would be worth looking at RC4WD range of tires. These Sand Paddle tires for instance have an outer diameter of 112mm/4.44inch

http://store.rc4wd.com/Sand-Storm-22-Paddle-Tires_p_741.html

[smiffffy]

Hi All many thanks for the previous feedback, can anyone tell me please.

A 2.2 wheel / tyre, is the 2.2 part a set industry standard so if a tyre states it is 2.2, should it just fit a 2.2 rated wheel.

So can i be sure that if i choose a tyre that states fits any 2.2 wheel it would fit.

Where is the 2.2 measured? as i assume it is an imperial inches measurement whereas most tyres are now in metric.

You have the very inner bead of the tyre that fits into the groove on the wheel, or is it the width of the tyre as this appears to be 2.2 on a monster beetle pin spike as well.

cheers Smiffffy

[smiffffy]

HPI SS MT directly mounted on MB axle (via HPI adaptator packet with rims) or using alternative Tamiya alu adaptor (on the rear axle). HPI SS MT fit lunchbox tires and 2.2 proline tires as for exemple MASHER.

HPI SS MT have different reference for Front and Rear; you MUST have the front rim if you want to fit bearing inside.

HPI SS MT have different reference for Front and Rear; you MUST have the front rim if you want to fit bearing inside.

Hi mastino you say that the fronts mount directly on an MB front axle via HPI adaptor that comes with the rims, do you have a picture of this adaptor , I have purchased a set of superstar MT from HPI, and the rears fit fine with the frog aluminium adaptor. But the fronts are much narrower on the axle so obviously need more support, they fit the same bearings as the MB 2.2 wheel but the centre of the MT superstar is too narrow and flop about with the axle now not being threaded far enough along to fit a wheel nut up against the bearing. Any pictures of the front adaptor or suggestions on where I can get one greatly received. Many thanks in advance. Smiffffy

[smiffffy]

Ps obviously I ask this as my HPI fronts for two wheel drive trucks didn't come with any adaptors.

Cheers

[mastino]

rear:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXN057

at the moment I'm not able to find the front ones (normally I've find the adaptor with the rims as in picture)

[smiffffy]

excellent , many thanks, now i know what i was looking for have just found a set on Amazon, everyone else says the item is discontinued

At the link you sent it shows the rear adaptors but at the bottom of the page under the comments section it says

"For the front adapters, use HPIC6115"

Cheers

[mastino]

"For the front adapters, use HPIC6115"

... my poor english!