Truck Norris 2237 Posted March 24, 2015 Ok, so this arrived today:The question is, how do I know that what's sealed inside that box is what was sold to me? Do I open it up? Get it X-rayed somehow?I've no reason to distrust the seller, but who's to say that prior to his possession, someone didn't fill a box with old parts, shrink wrap it then sell it as new? It feels about the right weight, and the shrink wrap has scuffs which would indicate the right age. If I shake it gently I can hear the sound of the lexan so I'm fairly sure, but there's a nagging doubt that it could be any old hodge-podge of bits in there!I guess going by Mr Schrödinger’s paradox, until it's cracked open there both is and isn't a brand new unbuilt King Cab in there! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bromvw 744 Posted March 24, 2015 Your totally paranoid . Have you being drinking the sheep dip again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregM 1109 Posted March 24, 2015 I guess going by Mr Schrödinger’s paradox, until it's cracked open there both is and isn't a brand new unbuilt King Cab in there! Can't argue with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grastens 2795 Posted March 24, 2015 Well, what do you intend to do with it? If you intend to keep it new-in-box, then x-rays would seem the answer. Otherwise, there are not really too many alternatives to opening that sucker up and checking the contents. If you are not keeping it sealed in the future (i.e.: building it), is the importance of keeping it wrapped for this examination to allow a return to the seller if not as advertised? If you do open it and the contents are not as advertised, then you reason for returning it in the unsealed state is justifiable; if it really matters, then shrink-wrap it again! Perhaps the cost of that may not be as significant as what you may have potentially paid for a King Cab in this condition... And if the kit will remain in its box in your possession, here is another question: does it really matter? The Schrodinger poser is in effect, but what is to stop you from believing one state or the other? After all, it sounds like one when the box is shaken; for all intents and purposes you have a new-in-sealed-box Nissan King Cab. It is not like you will get to see the hodge-podge of bits in there, and they do not break the illusion if they do in fact comprise the contents of the box. And besides, the box from here looks to be quite fine. I mean, I kind of have to agree with bromvw on this one, but this is the reason why I think that way. We could get into a whole philosophical debate on these thought experiments and the significance of the shrink-wrap, but I will not occupy this thread for that. If a King Cab was my thing, I would agree to solve the paradox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin_Mc 411 Posted March 24, 2015 I have a set of x-ray specs that i could sell to you. They're also NIB and should not be opened though...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backlash 481 Posted March 25, 2015 If it was me, I would open it.. I even opened the factory seal on my RC10 Re-Re that I bought off eBay.. There has also been some discussion on this forum and others as to if Tamiya actually wrapped their kits in heat shrink, or if it was done at the distributor, or even hobby shop.. I know my LHS heat shrinks all of their kits themselves, irrespective of brand to deter theft from the kits out on display in the store... Maybe you could enquire at your local hobby shop if they have the ability to heat shrink the kits, and if they would re-heat shrink yours if you so desire.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Ax 9325 Posted March 25, 2015 does it really matter? The Schrodinger poser is in effect, but what is to stop you from believing one state or the other? I once watched some new-age pseudo-science film that started off with a basic introduction to quantum physics and ended with some spiritual gurus trying to tell me that I could influence the outcome of collapsing quantum waves by believing that they would collapse in my favour. So there you go: maybe if you believe strongly enough that the box contains exactly what you want it to contain, maybe it will? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gruntfuggly 562 Posted March 25, 2015 If it really matters, open it and then shrink wrap it again yourself. You'll have a clear conscience if you ever decide to move it on and if not, you'll know what it contains.Unless your suggestion the shrink wrap itself has some sort of value? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamiya1/10 382 Posted March 25, 2015 Shrink wrap is a North American practice, not done in Asia. Here, once you buy the kit, the shop owner lets you go through the content of the box to make sure at least all the bags are there, and more noticable items such as body is there and not damaged, and the wheels and tires are there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StrokerBoy 772 Posted March 25, 2015 Open it, build it, brush-paint it matt-black, crash it into the kerb then chuck the box in the bin. Dare ya. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truck Norris 2237 Posted July 22, 2015 So, curiosity got the better of me, and the 180 day PayPal claim limit was looming in case it turned out not to be what I was sold. I opened it up and this is what was inside: Just kidding! It was really this: Everything exactly how it should be, tyre and parts boxes still sealed etc. Good to know what I have now, and should hopefully be easier to sell on should I want to do that. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRx718 4470 Posted July 22, 2015 Shrink wrap is a North American practice, not done in Asia. Here, once you buy the kit, the shop owner lets you go through the content of the box to make sure at least all the bags are there, and more noticable items such as body is there and not damaged, and the wheels and tires are there too. This is what I have been told in the past too, that it was a North America thing. Though bizarrely; my F103GT chassis kit was shrink wrapped and bought through a UK retailer. Weird. But I certainly don't think it should add any value if a kit is wrapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mynameisdannyowens 61 Posted July 22, 2015 **** I want those brand new balloon pin spike tyres!!! Nice score Seems a shame not to build it and take it out of RC purgatory and breatheven life into it, even if it just sits on a shelf! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy_w_beans 4272 Posted July 22, 2015 So, curiosity got the better of me, and the 180 day PayPal claim limit was looming in case it turned out not to be what I was sold. I opened it up and this is what was inside: Just kidding! It was really this: Everything exactly how it should be, tyre and parts boxes still sealed etc. Good to know what I have now, and should hopefully be easier to sell on should I want to do that. You got me. I read the first line and looked at the picture, then sucked in a deep breath expecting a rant to follow... I scrolled down the page a little more... Doh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truck Norris 2237 Posted July 22, 2015 **** I want those brand new balloon pin spike tyres!!! Nice score Seems a shame not to build it and take it out of RC purgatory and breatheven life into it, even if it just sits on a shelf! This won't get built. I have another for that! http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=76279&p=592170 You got me. I read the first line and looked at the picture, then sucked in a deep breath expecting a rant to follow... I scrolled down the page a little more... Doh! Haha! Couldn't resist, sorry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
