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Ok guy's I have a ? I have 4 willy 2 chassis and 3 lunch box style trucks also and I noticed when you squeeze the lunch box types tires down with your hand they feel softer because I feel the air escaping through the wheels much faster than the wild willy type wheels and tires?

So I am thinking of drilling a hole in my wild willy wheels because I feel they would work better if the tires where a little softer like the lunch box one?

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

Shen

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Softer tires in that size contribute to damping after landing jumps, so if that is a concern then maybe some softer-rate springs or damper oil (depending on which dampers you use) will be more practical. But then, these cars tend to bounce as it is...

If you do drill holes, tire foams are also a good idea. Tires are the only part of the car in contact with the ground (not always the case with the Lunchbox, but you get the idea), and if they become even more free to deform there will be even less precision or directional stability to be had, maybe beyond the point that makes these large-tired cars endearing.

In the end, I would not drill, but what you do with your cars is obviously up to you!

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Mmm I inserted foams in my Willy and Lunchbox wheels because the tires are to soft.

I think Tamiya made the lunch box tires soft for a reason because the suspension is so bad on it the tires need to absorb the shock because we all know the suspension don't.

I recently took my lunch box in the woods on a lower mountain trail and I am pretty sure if it had harder tires it would have been all over the place and uncontrollable.

Posted

Softer tires in that size contribute to damping after landing jumps, so if that is a concern then maybe some softer-rate springs or damper oil (depending on which dampers you use) will be more practical. But then, these cars tend to bounce as it is...

If you do drill holes, tire foams are also a good idea. Tires are the only part of the car in contact with the ground (not always the case with the Lunchbox, but you get the idea), and if they become even more free to deform there will be even less precision or directional stability to be had, maybe beyond the point that makes these large-tired cars endearing.

In the end, I would not drill, but what you do with your cars is obviously up to you!

I think Tamiya may have made the air holes smaller in the wild willy wheels so they don't feel as soft because they knew the willy suspension actually works pretty good unlike the lunch box series.

I guess I can drill a hole in the wheels and see how it works you can always simply put a section of tape over the hole and make them like stock again.... Will have to think about it.

Thanks

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I think Tamiya may have made the air holes smaller in the wild willy wheels so they don't feel as soft because they knew the willy suspension actually works pretty good unlike the lunch box series.

Sounds logical, but I very much doubt that this is the case. After all were the wheels for the Wild Willy 2 first made for the Mad Bull, two years before the Wild Willy 2 was launched. Considering that the DT-01 (Mad Bull) suspension is roughly just as crude as the CW-01 (Lunchbox) suspension, equally large holes would have been logical.

As much as I think Tamiya has a good reason for doing almost everything they do, I fail to see a logic in this case and think the hole size for CW-01 vs. DT-01/WR-02 wheels is more or less down to coincidence.

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I'd guess the WW2 body is heavier than the Lunchbox so you need the firmer tyres to keep it upright.

You could do a simple test. Drive the cars as normal around a set course, then cover the holes with tape and drive the course again. That should give you a pretty extreme example of the difference between the set ups.

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