Klausen 1197 Posted September 11, 2015 I wonder if that's why they added those shock limiters. Will make good sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dante77 11 Posted September 11, 2015 I wonder if that's why they added those shock limiters. No, I mean they bind when fully de-compressed. The angle of the universals is too steep. They work when the shocks are compressed. The shock limiters would make sense if it was the other way round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCcoachworks 59 Posted September 11, 2015 That makes sense. I wonder if there's limiters inside the shocks, or if they're just shorter than the original units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregM 1109 Posted September 11, 2015 The re-release Monster Beetle oil dampers are C.V.A. II short shocks (e.g. #50520) molded in yellow and use short bottom ends. According to the manual, there are no droop limiters inside the damper body. They're not the old C.V.A. I design from the original MB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spankrjs 77 Posted September 11, 2015 The "gearbox sides flexing outward allowing the diff to spread/crunch" issue looks to be the same here, unless they made the gearbox side plates thicker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moffman 5752 Posted September 12, 2015 I see modelsport have put the release date back to November 5th! You can get them in Canada now but good old UK (also could be Europe) gets a multitude of release dates no wonder people order from the Asian countries! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1980 71 Posted September 12, 2015 Fusion say there first lot are in transit for early October. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeaMonster 506 Posted September 12, 2015 Fusion say there first lot are in transit for early October.I was told the same, 10th October was the date they gave me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moffman 5752 Posted September 12, 2015 I was told the same, 10th October was the date they gave me That sounds better! Wonder why modelsport change the dates? Mind you it's not the first time they've done that with tamiya rc's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCcoachworks 59 Posted September 13, 2015 I noticed today in RC Driver magazine that they used a photo of the original MB in the blurb they did about the re-release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikekey 1 Posted September 15, 2015 Interesting footnote on page 21 of the manual: "Once attached to body, side mirror parts cannot be detached. Attach only if model is for display purposes." It's nice that they've considered those who will get one of these as a shelfer and included parts to pretty it up! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazzer 12 Posted September 15, 2015 Rc models are meant to be put in action. But tamiya always look good on shelves too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1980 71 Posted September 16, 2015 I plan to run mine on grass, how deep can it be roughly? Just going to add bearings first the drive shafts look pretty good now are there any mods worth getting before starting the build? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregM 1109 Posted September 16, 2015 Short grass will be OK, but long grass will put a lot of strain on the motor, which then runs hot. If parts break, its good that spare parts should become available at reasonable prices. The plastic brace between the rear bodymounts is prone to break, there are aftermarket metal braces. There are also a ton of aftermarket reinforcement parts for this chassis made by Team CRP. There are some modifications that either work by reinforcing the gearbox sideplates against flexing (BiggusDitchus' mod: http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=95681&id=280 ), or even by modifying the diff itself against the forces that try to separate the diff gears and outdrives (oldfrogshot's screw mod: http://tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=24674&sid=3142 ). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1980 71 Posted September 16, 2015 Short grass will be OK, but long grass will put a lot of strain on the motor, which then runs hot. If parts break, its good that spare parts should become available at reasonable prices. The plastic brace between the rear bodymounts is prone to break, there are aftermarket metal braces. There are also a ton of aftermarket reinforcement parts for this chassis made by Team CRP. There are some modifications that either work by reinforcing the gearbox sideplates against flexing (BiggusDitchus' mod: http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=95681&id=280 ), or even by modifying the diff itself against the forces that try to separate the diff gears and outdrives (oldfrogshot's screw mod: http://tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=24674&sid=3142 ). Thanks yea I see, theres a nice area by me I want to try and get some actual use in a decent space for once. I guess its park/green area council owned etc so doesn't get mowed all to often will give it a go. Expect more will come out to, wonder if anything else on gear box has been modified or is it just the new drive shafts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73robb 132 Posted September 16, 2015 I hadn't seen the mod to stop the side plates flexing, but would be interested in this one. Were these ever available to purchase or does anyone have a template for them? Cheers Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GregM 1109 Posted September 17, 2015 I got a leftover pair of Biggus' sideplates from Twinset, they got mounted on my brother's Monster Beetle. I don't know if any still are available or if another production run is planned. Without the original drawings, reproducing the plates might be difficult, since there are tight tolerances between 3 screws and the hole for the outdrive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73robb 132 Posted September 17, 2015 Thanks Greg, Maybe now the re-re is coming there maybe some aftermarket mods released along these lines. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zakspeed 187 Posted September 17, 2015 Personally I'm not convinced those additional plates make any difference. The main issue is one of the diff flanges runs in direct resistance with the bearing carrier. This causes the bearing carrier to wear and then the diff separates causing the clicking. As stated you will need to convince me that the side plates are the cause. Having owned and built many ORV chassis cars the best and only solution in my opinion is the oldfrogshot method. There was heavy duty bearing carriers floating around but I've never seen one up close. As stated I hope they bring a hop up diff out like they did for the SRB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yonez 180 Posted September 17, 2015 +1 on the hop up diff. Or a new aftermarket option. I've been looking at the vintage Thorp and Dirt Burners solutions on eBay and just can't defend those prices. That cty300 has amazing selection but staggering prices as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terz1 745 Posted September 17, 2015 I've got a vintage blackfoot. It has the issues as mentioned above. This re-re monster beetle release could be great news for vintage owners. Thanks for the link GregM. I don't think I have the skills or equipment to lock the diff, wish I did. The plates look great too. I'd buy a hop up diff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snappy1 966 Posted September 17, 2015 Anyone who pre ordered from Stella heard anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 3661 Posted September 18, 2015 cty300 has amazing selection but staggering prices as well. Second that! I priced out a full NOS Thorp set up with him and it was more than my Honda Civic was worth! Ha! I gambled on a used set Robinson Tranny (superjayc) and ended up having to replace one gear... Otherwise it has been fantastic! Terry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCcoachworks 59 Posted September 18, 2015 I used to use the CRP bearing supports -> http://www.rcchopshop.com/crp/1608.html I don't know if these are still available, but they might be on the bay somewhere. I don't remember having any issues with the diff in my beetle, but maybe I was too easy on it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCcoachworks 59 Posted September 18, 2015 My wife just put in a pre-order for an MB on Tower Hobbies. Best birthday gift ever! Best wife ever, too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
