stamatis 84 Posted October 19, 2015 Wrong, there will be a big difference, as you remove many grams from the front (motor, gears, diff, joints, bearings etc)... You can also use this http://www.modellbau-seidel.de/index.php?firma=Tamiya&best=9005735 which allows much more suspension travel because it is not as thick as the gearcase, so steering links dont touch it when used with longer shocks. Also no problem at all with steering angle, no dogbones will pop out... Finally it has other geometry and provides better steering. Have a look at my RWD Mighty Bull which is my favorite truck, huge suspension travel, very lightweight and fast to the point you cant control it at full throttle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterbok 1282 Posted October 19, 2015 I did a couple of conversions, build 4 rwd daggers for my niece, nephew and godchild. handmade dampermounts, oilshocks, ballbearings, beefier upperarms, steel pinion, 35T motor, tire foams. Also had a go at some driver figures. and made a custom servomount 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terz1 745 Posted October 19, 2015 Me neither. I was rather hoping that we'd see a WT-01 Monster Beetle II. When I first started the hobby again at the end of last year I was really disappointed they still didn't produce the monster beetle. So I picked a platform that was the current equivalent which was the wt01 mudblaster 2 kit, then fit a lexan beetle body and finished it in monster beetle box art. Looks great, handles brilliantly and is super tough. Here's my build thread... http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=75485 Since this pic I've fit an interior, driver and rear scale baja bug engine. Soon to come will be the re-re gold wheels which will be fit using an adapter. When you mentioned the shock lengths and difference it makes here's a picture of the standard suspension under full compression and after with larger shock towers and 100mm length shocks. The difference before and after is night and day, much better. Before with standard shocks fully compressed... After with 100mm shocks and larger shock towers fully compressed.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kontemax 1725 Posted October 19, 2015 Hi, what brand are these dampers please? Are them gold or orange? Max Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whahooo 465 Posted October 19, 2015 Wrong, there will be a big difference, as you remove many grams from the front (motor, gears, diff, joints, bearings etc)... You can also use this http://www.modellbau-seidel.de/index.php?firma=Tamiya&best=9005735 which allows much more suspension travel because it is not as thick as the gearcase, so steering links dont touch it when used with longer shocks. Also no problem at all with steering angle, no dogbones will pop out... Finally it has other geometry and provides better steering. Have a look at my RWD Mighty Bull which is my favorite truck, huge suspension travel, very lightweight and fast to the point you cant control it at full throttle... Ok, i had a look of the chassis and now i understand what you mean with "steering links touch it when used with longer shocks". The steering links touch the gearbox if i use longer shocks and the suspensionarms/wishbones are fully extended. So i thinkin of getting the part you recomended. can i use the original Dagger wishbones/suspensionarms with this part?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterbok 1282 Posted October 19, 2015 Ok, i had a look of the chassis and now i understand what you mean with "steering links touch it when used with longer shocks". The steering links touch the gearbox if i use longer shocks and the suspensionarms/wishbones are fully extended. So i thinkin of getting the part you recomended. can i use the original Dagger wishbones/suspensionarms with this part?? yep it all fits, is a direct replacement for the gearbox. the lower arms are slightly more tilted backward if i remember correctly. You can mount the original bumber or the bigger WT01 attention blurry picture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terz1 745 Posted October 19, 2015 Hi, what brand are these dampers please? Are them gold or orange? Max Hi max. They are either a very deep gold or orange. I can't remember now, the colour in the picture looks pretty accurate to how they really look. I think I bought them from a place in the uk called blacksmithproducts. They also sell on ebay too. After a quick look I found these which look very similar. Hope that helps. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/orange-108004-HSP-RC-1-10-4WD-08041-Aluminum-Shock-Absorber-Upgrade-100mm-/151708626041?hash=item235289ec79:m:mGH01u3VmrbVeCxmapzVBmQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XV Pilot 1936 Posted October 19, 2015 Indeed - the WT-01 front bulkhead does feature a bit of kick-up compared to the WR-01 gearbox, which translates to castor, which translates to better handling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRx718 4470 Posted October 19, 2015 My (originally a Twin Detonator I think) chassis is now RWD, and my most frequently used car. I made a really annoying video of it recently. Turn up your speakers for ultimate cheesiness. Watch how the whole vehicle squats under power, I really need to counter this. It would result in more successful wheelies!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr crispy 2293 Posted October 19, 2015 Jeeze Chris that muzak was painful 😝 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRx718 4470 Posted October 19, 2015 Does it even class as music?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whahooo 465 Posted October 21, 2015 Nice ride, since i have my re-re Montero i wanted it to make it a "Jurassic Park Pajero" with the Brat wheels, but i will see where it goes.... Back to Daggertalk: I think i will keep it 4WD just for the beginning. To Counter the Problem with the steering links, i think i?ll take a threded rod cut it into lengh abd bend it into shape, so the gearbox won`t get in the way of the steering link...... Edit: Now is saw that build i don`t know where My future project will go: http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=68472&id=7734 Thats very very nice, so i think, maybe i shouldn`t have buy the shocktowers, but maybe a similar project with the aluminum shocktower are even a better ride. Maybe i should put it all into a box and hide it and wen i discover it in the future i`ll start istantly building something like a "nice build". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=Jeff=- 57 Posted October 23, 2015 I have 2 of those 2WD front boxes... My son has a Dual Hunter, my truck is a Blackfoot converted to 4wd, and my daughter has a Blackfoot with a Parma Beetle body tisll in process of going to 4wd. We like using them in the snow and I have found the 4wd helps for this. I need to finish her car up so we can run them all again.. Mine is setup like the Amarok with narrow swing arms and WW2 tires.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XV Pilot 1936 Posted October 23, 2015 The 4WD WR-01 and the 2WD WT-01 both have their pros and cons. Simply put, the WR-01 is better at clambering over things relatively slowly, and the WT-01 is better at jumping over them quickly. Ideally you'd have one of each, and run them as mood and conditions dictate. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whahooo 465 Posted September 18, 2017 I have a Quesion aboiut Screws. The Screws that are marked in the Picture are getting loose all the Time because they uncrew during the up/down Travel of the Arms. The Screws that are used at the Moment are These Kind of screws: I would need to use similar screws with a longer unthreaded part that Slips through the Plastic and the alloy Shocktower. What Screws would you recomend for using? I don`t find any usable Infos. PS: Sorry about my terrifying bad english, i really didn`write anything in english since about a Long Long Time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterbok 1282 Posted September 18, 2017 Edit: these might work Tamiya - 9805573 second from left I replaced the screws for the following, its quite bombproof, The lower stepscrew is Tamiya - 9808289 I drilled the lower holes to 4mm and threaded the upper holes in the chassis with an M3 tapper but you might have to replace the upper arms as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whahooo 465 Posted September 19, 2017 Many Thanks! i will try the Tamiya - 9805573 screws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-rem 5 Posted December 21, 2019 Sorry to resurect such an old thread but I could not find any satisfatory answer to my question : can someone tell me what are goods CVD or DCJ shafts for the WR-01/WT-01 chassis (apart from GPM) ? I would like to get rid of dogbone jumps when steering is fully locked in. Thanks in advance for your help ! Regards G-rem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stamatis 84 Posted December 22, 2019 Hi. You can go with the df03 ones I think, #53791. But if I remember well when you use afremarket arms these may be 1 or 2 mm shorter compared to dogbones. Topcad also used to make some decent ones. Everything else is crap. Thanks Stamatis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stamatis 84 Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, stamatis said: Hi. You can go with the df03 ones I think, #53791. But if I remember well when you use afremarket arms these may be 1 or 2 mm shorter compared to dogbones. Topcad also used to make some decent ones. Everything else is crap. Thanks Stamatis. Also please look for 72mm kyosho driveshafts. They are awesome but hard to find too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-rem 5 Posted December 23, 2019 Thanks for your reply Stam ! I will go with these for a first try : http://www.yeahracing.com/catalog/df03015sp-spring-steel-shaft-tamiya-df03-wild-dagger-twin-detonator-double-blaze-force-p-4739.html If they fail, I'll buy the Kyosho LA257 : https://rc.kyosho.com/en/la257.html Why I do not take the Kyosho first : I would like to see if the fitment is enough with the Yeah Racing, hopefully it fits perfectly Cheers, G-rem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stamatis 84 Posted December 24, 2019 Υeah Racing ones are not good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites