Kyosho vintage motors

[mongoose1983]

I got these motors a couple of days ago. Both of them are Kyosho. One of them is a beautiful Super Stock 34, and the other has a green sticker "Bud's Racing motor". I've searched on google for information, and I can't find anything. I was wondering if anybody here knows anything about them? Here's some photos:

You ALL have a fantastic 2016!

EDIT: Duh, I found something about the Super Stock 34 here in TC "The Kyosho super stock 34 is a 27 turn single wind wet magnet motor with 34 degrees of timing. Max rpm is 28,000 and it has bronze bushings. The wire diameter is 0.65mm. This is according to the 1991 Tower Hobbies catalog."

Still trying to find info about the green BUD'S Racing Motor.

[markbt73]

Bud's was a company here in the USA that sold all sorts of accessories and tools. Back then it was common for companies to buy motor cans and armature blanks and wind their own modified motors. Kyosho and Yokomo were both pretty common suppliers for this. Bud's must have gotten theirs from Kyosho.

Unfortunately, the motor wind was usually printed (or even hand-written) on the packaging, and not on the motor itself, so the only way to determine the wind is to open it up and count the winds.

Edit: I just noticed it has bushings instead of bearings, so it's probably a stock motor of some kind... would still have been sold by Bud's and not Kyosho, however.

[Champ85]

Bud's Racing Products (BRP)

Website: http://www.brpracing.com/index.html

From the About page: "BRP Inc. was founded in 1986 by it's owner, Bud Bartos."

Bud Bartos is a well known name in the RC world.

[CoolHands]

could be one of the ones in this period catalogue!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BUDS-RACING-PRODUCTS-INC-CATALOG-RADIO-CONTROL-CARS-8-PAGES-VG-COND-/351595880773?hash=item51dcbf6145:g:L9gAAOSwnipWYLhs

[markbt73]

Bud's Racing Products (BRP)

Website: http://www.brpracing.com/index.html

From the About page: "BRP Inc. was founded in 1986 by it's owner, Bud Bartos."

Bud Bartos is a well known name in the RC world.

Huh. I didn't know they were still in business. But yeah, they would have bulk-bought motors and components from Kyosho, which is why it says Kyosho on the endbell.

That Super Stock is from a dark period in stock racing when every manufacturer was trying to be just a little bit faster by cranking up the timing on their motors. Not only did this make it hard to keep up if you didn't have the latest and greatest motor, overly-advanced timing makes motors run hot, wear out faster, and guzzle battery power. Took all the fun out of stock-class racing, which was supposed to be cheap. I think the ROAR rule change to 24 degrees of timing came in 1991, which would make this one of the last super-advanced-timing stock motors.

[markbt73]

From a 1990 Kyosho mini-catalog:

[mongoose1983]

Thanks for the information and catalog photos!

It crossed my mind to use these motors on my all-stock Chevrolet Clod Buster. That's why I asked.

You all have a good week!