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I'm thinking of purchasing an egress kit. I always loved the look. My questions are :

How difficult is the build?

Is it prone to breakages/ reliability?

Is it to nice of a kit to make a runner?

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1- The build is easy and quite fun.

2- If you don't crash it, you won't break it. It can handle hot motors and short gearing no problem.

3- It makes a great runner if you are not big on jumping your off-roaders. The car definitely will not handle cart-wheels or bad landings very well. Also if you are a novice, ball diff setup, break-in and maintenance can be tricky. The newly re-designed ball diffs are a more adjustable modern-style (unlike the 80's ones), so it's easy to let them get too-loose as they run-in (which will cause them to melt-down). If you know how to deal with ball-diffs, then there is really no concern about relability.

If you plan on running this car, get some DF03 wheels and modern tires. I prefer the Tamiya high-density-K tires. They are very hard and last very long, even on asphalt....yet they work great off-road. They have now been replaced by Dual-Block K tires which are also hard, but I have yet to use.

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1- The build is easy and quite fun.

2- If you don't crash it, you won't break it. It can handle hot motors and short gearing no problem.

3- It makes a great runner if you are not big on jumping your off-roaders. The car definitely will not handle cart-wheels or bad landings very well. Also if you are a novice, ball diff setup, break-in and maintenance can be tricky. The newly re-designed ball diffs are a more adjustable modern-style (unlike the 80's ones), so it's easy to let them get too-loose as they run-in (which will cause them to melt-down). If you know how to deal with ball-diffs, then there is really no concern about relability.

If you plan on running this car, get some DF03 wheels and modern tires. I prefer the Tamiya high-density-K tires. They are very hard and last very long, even on asphalt....yet they work great off-road. They have now been replaced by Dual-Block K tires which are also hard, but I have yet to use.

Thanks for the input. I do like jumping my cars so that is not great lol. I built a ball diff once for my astute when that came out. I had no problems then but like you said they are newly designed so I am a novice. I'm still on the fence but definitely leaning towards an egress. Thanks again

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94eg is there any hop ups to purchase prior to the build to replace the stock part?

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Most seem to recommend alloy front & rear hubs (yeah-racing brand). They are expensive though, and I never personally used them. I've always had plastic hubs on my Vanquish runner since 1990 and only cracked one once when an improper rear kyosho shock setup caused a dog-bone to drop out. That won't happen with original kit parts like the Egress.

Other than adding the DF03 wheels/tires, the Egress looks good right out of the box. Personally I would definitely run it as-is. The trick for me would be finding a decent stick-pack lipo that fits well.....cause I will never go back to nimh craptasic batteries again in my life. 10.5 or 13.5 brushless would also be nice, but I mostly run brushed motors (15T to 19T).

The only thing I would consider adding at a later time would be an Avante center ball diff. The kit-included center one-way is a racing option that you wouldn't want for bashing (it ruins braking).....therefore your Out-of-the-box setup should probably be the locked center option (locked 4WD). But adding the third ball diff at a later time will make for a very interesting before/after comparison. It's also very easy to swap in, so no worries about having one during your initial build. Just start collecting bits and looking forward to in the future.

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Alloy front hubs are useful, as the original already snapped after first run.

I use the wheels and tires of a CC01 Pajero, as Tamiya once did with the Blazing Star.

Offroad works fine bur onroad is a thrill.

Maintaining diffs is essential. And don't crash it! Front gearbox already broke of chassis :blink:

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My re re is stock with yeah racing front and rear alloy hubs ,I have been running it for nearly 18 months, it runs a 6.5 T sensored brushless, 2/3 c lipo either on flat grass/dirt or road surface .

No issues whatsoever, but I haven't smashed it yet either

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I'm thinking of purchasing an egress kit. I always loved the look. My questions are :

How difficult is the build?

Is it prone to breakages/ reliability?

Is it to nice of a kit to make a runner?

Just bear in mind it is still a vintage kit by design and behaviour - if you want to race in vintage classes or light occassional recreational use then fine, but if you expect a robust vehicle for weekend park/car park duties with Traxxas Slash style robustness then look elsewhere.

Not trying to be negative but the Egress does need a little bit of respect - if you want to do big dirt jumps then I'd look more towards the modern TRF buggies (or dare I say it other modern race buggies).

Its a fab build experience - quite technical but not complex if you follow the manual carefully. Trouble is by the time youve spent 10s of hours caressing the lovely alloy and CF parts you don;t want to ruin it ;)

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I agree with the above.....If you want a Tamiya for precision driving and robustness for flying, the DB01 is the best inexpensive option (plus a couple choice hop-ups). More advanced, tougher & better version would be the DB01RRR.... but it would cost you. Body & tires are not included.

If you live in the USA, then the 502X at TamiyaUSA for $300 shipped is almost impossible to beat.

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Thanks for all the replies. Since I would definitely want to run it I think I will pass on the egress. I give you guys credit for keeping shelf queens or kits sealed lol. I could never do it. Since I am in the states I'll check out db01 and 502x. Otherwise it's back to square one on what 4wd to get.

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The only thing I would consider adding at a later time would be an Avante center ball diff.

I thought only the 2001 had the centre diff?

My runner has a locked centre. Tried the one way but as you say made braking non-existent. My runner is a modded Vajra and I'm wondering if it's contributory to the steering being very wobbly. I've bought some new lunsford balls and cups to try and tighten up the front end.

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Avante, Vanquish, Avante 2001 & Avante 2011 all have a non-adjustable center ball-diff. The Avante 2011's center diff is slightly different though. Functionally it's the same, and even drops right into old cars as a complete unit....but many of the internal parts are not compatible with the vintage center diffs. Tamiya switched to a square drive prop joint instead of the old splined joint.

Vajra came with a locked center only.

Egress has a locked or one-way center option.

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Thanks for that. How hard is it to gather the parts for a centre diff.

I have a 2011 but its boxed. A black special with a one way and my egress started life as a vajra so is locked.

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TamiyaUSA has the manual on their Avante 2011 page. You can look up the parts or parts-bags required, and then order them from your favorite supplier.

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I can't bring myself to dirty my Vajra! Part of me can't wait to take it out, think I'll wait until the weather is better!

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Yes. Sand in your Vaj would be quite lame. Once you get it in there, it's hard to get out.

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Yes. Sand in your Vaj would be quite lame. Once you get it in there, it's hard to get out.

Yeesh!

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Important to use waterproof electrics then so you can just rinse it out ;) !!

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