Tamiya hornet upgraded parts

[Pintopower]

I know you are all thinking "Yes, yes, we have seen SuperFly." Well fine then! Be that way!

Just Kidding. I wanted to show some of my upgraded parts that I have finally finished using SuperFly and am now using on other Hornets. I get a of emails asking where everything is so I am hoping that this page will make this simple. As I make more things available, I will edit this original post so it's all concise.

1. Battery Retainer, Standard

This bracket is attached to the chassis using the grasshopper transmission extension notch for placement and then two screws holding it secure. Please make sure you clean/drill the clip holes to make sure all 3D printing material is cleared out. The pegs do not bottom out. The door will no longer fit and a 2D template for creating a styrene one is below. Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here

http://shpws.me/LKeC

Here is a video of the installation:

Battery/Transmission Retainer and Battery Door Installation

2. Battery Retainer, Non-Grasshopper Transmission

This bracket is attached to the chassis using the grasshopper transmission extension notch for placement and then two screws holding it secure. Considering doing the 3rd shock mod? Don't bother. This allows the articulation needed for the Hornet without the flopping of the rear end under acceleration. This captures the leading edge of the transmission without any damage to the trans case. Please make sure you clean/drill the clip holes to make sure all 3D printing material is cleared out. The pegs do not bottom out. The door will no longer fit and a 2D template for creating a styrene one is below. Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LKeS

3. Battery Retainer, Grasshopper Transmission

This bracket is attached to the chassis using the grasshopper transmission extension notch for placement and then two screws holding it secure. Considering doing the 3rd shock mod? Don't bother. This allows the articulation needed for the Hornet without the flopping of the rear end under acceleration. This captures the tab used for the grasshopper limiting on the transmission without any damage to the trans case. Please make sure you clean/drill the clip holes to make sure all 3D printing material is cleared out. The pegs do not bottom out. The door will no longer fit and a 2D template for creating a styrene one is below. Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LKfh

4. Suspension Brace and wing mount

Show of hands, who loves the durability of the Hornet rear wing? No one? Me either. This will allow you to chop off the destroyed wing mount on your Hornet shell and plop on any wing you can find. Works like a champ and stiffens the rear shock mounts while you are at it. Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LKfz

Video Can be found here:

https://youtu.be/DbgD-xw6Rt8

5. Hornet Rear Suspension Mount

This is designed specifically for the Hornet and is not compatible with the Super Hornet in any way. No hardware is included and a light degree of RC expertise is needed to select your rear suspension shocks as these are not compatible with the standard units. Please note, these are 3D printed and though at AMPro, we have done extensive testing with them (among many other structural 3D printed parts), be aware that they are not as strong as an injection molded version. That said, our test car has raced aggressively with those arms without any issue despite being battered by modern buggies and trucks. Hardware needed to complete the front end is not included nor are shocks. Please ensure you clean all holes (they will be full of 3D printing powder) and that you do not force or over tighten the self tapping screws. Make sure you "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LuK7

6. Hornet Rear Wing

This custom wing is 3D printed in a flexible and durable plastic. This is a direct bolt on replacement to the Hornet shell with no modifications done to the shell. It will require a polystyrene primer and paint for a showroom finish. A number of colors are available for this as well as a option but note that due to the manufacturing process, the clear may have a side where it is translucent due to the orientation that it was printed. Clear is not recommended if you are planning on painting this like a lexan shell; it will not work as you imagine. White polished is the most recommended version as it accepts paint fantastic and will make the best base for a primer. Due to Shapeways lack of of a "Black Polished", black is not an option at this time. Please let us know if you have any questions on this wing.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/HUaG

7. Double Wish Bone front Suspension

This is the complete AMPro double wishbone front suspension arms and uprights for the Tamiya Hornet & Grasshopper. No modification is needed at all to complete the suspension. There is an optional pivot to create better geometry as well. Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LKga

Optional Support (not included in set):

http://shpws.me/LKgc

8. Adjustable Hornet Sock Collars

Do I need to explain this one? Who likes taking the shock ball end off to add or reduce preload? Not me and no longer! 4 come per order.

Can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LKgw

9. AMPro Hornet Cantilever front end kit

This is used in conjunction with the AMPro front suspension kit. This is an updated version with ball bearing cantilever arm. You will need 4 flanged ball bearings, MF74ZZ. Dimensions are: 4x7x2.5. They must be these bearings used in conjunction with a Tamiya 4mm diameter x 6mm length spacer, not the 5mm length version. You will pinch the arm and it will not function. A narrow diameter 80 mm shock is needed for the front end. Select the "Print it anyway" option if prompted at checkout line items.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LIsF

10. Transmission Retainer For Hornet with Grasshopper style trans

This bracket is attached to the chassis using the grasshopper transmission extension notch for placement and then two screws holding it secure. Considering doing the 3rd shock mod? Don't bother. This allows the articulation needed for the Hornet without the flopping of the rear end under acceleration. This captures the tab used for the grasshopper limiting on the transmission without any damage to the trans case. Please make sure you clean/drill the clip holes to make sure all 3D printing material is cleared out. The pegs do not bottom out. The stock battery door will still fit but you will no longer have a floppy transmission! Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LPqp

11. Transmission Retainer For Hornet with Midnight Pumpkin style trans, no tab

This bracket is attached to the chassis using the grasshopper transmission extension notch for placement and then two screws holding it secure. Considering doing the 3rd shock mod? Don't bother. This allows the articulation needed for the Hornet without the flopping of the rear end under acceleration. This captures the tab used for the grasshopper limiting on the transmission without any damage to the trans case. Please make sure you clean/drill the clip holes to make sure all 3D printing material is cleared out. The pegs do not bottom out. The stock battery door will still fit but you will no longer have a floppy transmission! Make sure you select "Print it anyway" from the check out screen line item if prompted.

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/LPrj

12. Battery Doors, several versions

Made to fit with the Ampro transmission braces, this door will NEVER fall off of your Hornet every again! This is made of a very tough and durable SLS 3D printed plastic and secures to the mounts on the Hornet Trans Braces (no tab and tab versions are available depending on your transmission). Though this is a flexible material, do not pull on the tab more than you would on the stock ABS version.

 

This can be found here:

http://shpws.me/M5Hl

 

Grasshopper Logo Version (this will only work if your Grasshopper has the complete Hornet rear suspension setup)

Can be found here:

http://shpws.me/M6Td

Standard Style Door

Can be found here:

http://shpws.me/M6Tc

13. Tamiya Hornet Zero offset, zero mod, direct replacement front suspension (zero mod on Hornet with "style" upper brace, slight mods needed for racing brace, both included).  This is the complete AMPro double wishbone front suspension arms and uprights for the Tamiya Hornet & Grasshopper. Please note, these are 3D printed and though at AMPro, we have done extensive testing with them (among many other structural 3D printed parts), please be aware that they are not as strong as an injection molded version. That said, our test car has raced with those arms without any issue. Hardware needed to complete the front end is not included. This version will allow you to retain the stock front springs or use vintage You-G/Parma shocks. Just install the metal u-bracket from the stock arm and you are all set! These arms are the same for both sides. Modifications are needed on a Grasshopper body to make this system work. Two upper control link pivots are included. The flat one offers optimal geometry and rigidity but requires to notch the body for the upper link. The other allows the body to remain unmodified but is weaker and comprimises geometry. Great for a light runner/shelfer.

PN-045001-00. 

Can be found here:

http://shpws.me/Mp6A

Video of installation and driving

Ampro Zero Offset Hornet Front End

14.  Tamiya Hornet 20mm offset, zero mod, front suspension (zero mod on Hornet with "style" upper brace, slight mods needed for racing brace, both included). This is the complete AMPro double wishbone front suspension arms and uprights for the Tamiya Hornet & Grasshopper. Please note, these are 3D printed and though at AMPro, we have done extensive testing with them (among many other structural 3D printed parts), please be aware that they are not as strong as an injection molded version. That said, our test car has raced with those arms without any issue. Hardware needed to complete the front end is not included. This version will allow you to install 60mm front shocks and retain the look of the stock Hornet. The lower shock mount is 20mm bellow stock so that the shock is recessed into the a-arm. Two upper control link pivots are included. The flat one offers optimal geometry and rigidity but requires to notch the body for the upper link. The other allows the body to remain unmodified but is weaker and comprimises geometry. Great for a light runner/shelfer.

PN-045001-20

Can be found here:

http://shpws.me/Mn3n

Video of the installation and performance here:

AMPro 20mm Offset Front Suspension

[Terz1]

That's a shame pinto. I know how you feel. I've done hours of writing and had the computer magically make it disappear. I'll look forward to when it's fixed. But yeah, take some time away from it. It's so frustrating when things like this happen.

[Pintopower]

That's a shame pinto. I know how you feel. I've done hours of writing and had the computer magically make it disappear. I'll look forward to when it's fixed. But yeah, take some time away from it. It's so frustrating when things like this happen.

Tell me about it. All fixed.

[mongoose1983]

I like the bit that makes the axle swing freely. That's genius!

[Pintopower]

I like the bit that makes the axle swing freely. That's genius!

Thank you. I have tried so many complicated fix and then realized how easy I could fix it when I fixed the battery stay. Oh well, better late than never.

[XV Pilot]

I really like the battery retainer that does away with the need for a 3rd rear shock.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to design a version that does the 3rd shock thing but allows one to retain the stock battery door?

[Pintopower]

I really like the battery retainer that does away with the need for a 3rd rear shock.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to design a version that does the 3rd shock thing but allows one to retain the stock battery door?

Yeah I think I can do that. For some reason I never thought of it.

[XV Pilot]

Excellent! I'll take two.

[Pintopower]

I really like the battery retainer that does away with the need for a 3rd rear shock.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to design a version that does the 3rd shock thing but allows one to retain the stock battery door?

Done! First post updated

[XV Pilot]

Ordered!

[Nobbi1977]

Ordered!

"Fitting" thread please..

[XV Pilot]

"Fitting" thread please..

I opted for the slower manufacturing option to save on cost so it'll be a while coming, but sure, I'll do that.

[Pintopower]

Added the new battery door to shapeways. I am so happy my batteries will never drag behind the car again.

[Pintopower]

So apparently everyone wants a grasshopper version of the door. Done, added it. Remember, the battery retainer is not compatible with a stock hopper. You need to have a complete hornet rear end installed. I also made a more stock looking one. 

[mongoose1983]

with the "upgrades" we don't have any more signatures with links, so people can't click their way to your Shapeways Alberto. I hope they will "downgrade" the forums so we can have that bit back.

[Pintopower]

Oh no! I didn't realize that. Poo. Well the links are on the first post and if you go to Shapeways and type in Hornet in the search window many things will come up. I wonder why they got rid of that? Let me know if there is anything you want. I can send it to Crash and he can send everything to you so shipping is less. 

[StueyS]

Hi Pintopower. I have stock Super Hornet which I would like to add a gearbox/transmission brace to. I have not seen one that is suitable, are you able to advise please? There is no room for a 3rd shock from looking at the car. Thanks :-)

 

[Pintopower]

2 hours ago, StueyS said:

Hi Pintopower. I have stock Super Hornet which I would like to add a gearbox/transmission brace to. I have not seen one that is suitable, are you able to advise please? There is no room for a 3rd shock from looking at the car. Thanks :-)

 

I have been dreading this one....

So the Super Hornet transmission design makes the Hornet look like a McLaren. The rear end it horribly flawed on it. As I am sure you noticed, when you press down on the rear end, the shocks are not able to fully compress as the trans and motor come into contact with the chassis. When the trans is held in place (lets say the middle), the rear suspension doesn't work properly. It needs to be all the way at the bottom so that the shocks can compress. This means a static mount wont work. I tried everything; engineering, cutting, shouting...nothing worked. It seems that the only option is a cantilevered 3rd shock which sounds complicated but I don't think it will be. I have been working on it on the side but I wont lie, this one isn't fun like the others.  I will solve it soon. 

[StueyS]

Wow, I had no idea it was soooo bad! It does feel like it has issues, I was hoping a simple solution was available. I would guess you are the man for the job :-)

 

[Pintopower]

55 minutes ago, StueyS said:

Wow, I had no idea it was soooo bad! It does feel like it has issues, I was hoping a simple solution was available. I would guess you are the man for the job :-)

 

I also assumed it would be easy since the CW01 mod was a 10 minute affair but this one looks to not only be horrible but also this most needed of the bunch. 

[StueyS]

I have started rebuilding the Super Hornet. I notice that when pushing the rear of the car down, the pivot mount at the front moves all the way up, before the shocks actually do! I have moved the bottom shock mounting onto the gearbox sides like the Grasshopper and Hornet, and now they work much better. I think I will leave it like that for the time being, and see if you can work your magic :-)

 

[Pintopower]

3 hours ago, StueyS said:

I have started rebuilding the Super Hornet. I notice that when pushing the rear of the car down, the pivot mount at the front moves all the way up, before the shocks actually do! I have moved the bottom shock mounting onto the gearbox sides like the Grasshopper and Hornet, and now they work much better. I think I will leave it like that for the time being, and see if you can work your magic :-)

 

I know, it is horrible design. As an engineer, some of the things Tamiya does makes me scratch my head. If I was in charge of the SH project at Tamiya when this happened and an engineer said "Check this out! I laid the shocks down, at the expense of everything else!", I think I would have fired him (or her).

[Pintopower]

3 hours ago, StueyS said:

I have started rebuilding the Super Hornet. I notice that when pushing the rear of the car down, the pivot mount at the front moves all the way up, before the shocks actually do! I have moved the bottom shock mounting onto the gearbox sides like the Grasshopper and Hornet, and now they work much better. I think I will leave it like that for the time being, and see if you can work your magic :-)

 

I know, it is horrible design. As an engineer, some of the things Tamiya does makes me scratch my head. If I was in charge of the SH project at Tamiya when this happened and an engineer said "Check this out! I laid the shocks down, at the expense of everything else!", I think I would have fired him (or her).

[Pintopower]

3 hours ago, StueyS said:

I have started rebuilding the Super Hornet. I notice that when pushing the rear of the car down, the pivot mount at the front moves all the way up, before the shocks actually do! I have moved the bottom shock mounting onto the gearbox sides like the Grasshopper and Hornet, and now they work much better. I think I will leave it like that for the time being, and see if you can work your magic :-)

 

I know, it is horrible design. As an engineer, some of the things Tamiya does makes me scratch my head. If I was in charge of the SH project at Tamiya when this happened and an engineer said "Check this out! I laid the shocks down, at the expense of everything else!", I think I would have fired him (or her).

[Pintopower]

4 hours ago, StueyS said:

I have started rebuilding the Super Hornet. I notice that when pushing the rear of the car down, the pivot mount at the front moves all the way up, before the shocks actually do! I have moved the bottom shock mounting onto the gearbox sides like the Grasshopper and Hornet, and now they work much better. I think I will leave it like that for the time being, and see if you can work your magic :-)

 

I know, it is horrible design. As an engineer, some of the things Tamiya does makes me scratch my head. If I was in charge of the SH project at Tamiya when this happened and an engineer said "Check this out! I laid the shocks down, at the expense of everything else!", I think I would have fired him (or her).