Tamiya Club Official Top 10 Fastest RC'ers List

[SRB Bloke]

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting in on this

I need to buy something to be able to track the speed...  any ideas.. ????

[Jason1145]

Lots of use this one.. 3rd link is quite cheap and in the UK too.

https://www.banggood.com/SKYRC-GPS-Speed-Meter-Link-Data-Logging-Google-Map-p-911200.html?currency=GBP&createTmp=1&utm_source=bing_cp&utm_medium=cpc_ods&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=heli-GB

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SKYRC-SkyRC-GPS-Speed-Meter/dp/B00NB22JXA

https://www.activescalemodels.co.uk/skyrc-gps-meter

[SRB Bloke]

Cheers for that, I'll try and pick one of those up.  Thanks

 

[Driveforfun]

2 hours ago, SRB Bloke said:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting in on this

I need to buy something to be able to track the speed...  any ideas.. ????

You probably have already gotten something by now, but i just looked for the cheapest phone i could find on amazon that had GPS, ended up being maybe $15 or something. Of course you don't activate it, just use the wifi and GPS. SO far mine has taken a real beating and kept on ticking...falling off at 40mph, etc...

[Wooders28]

3 hours ago, Jason1145 said:

front wheel drive gives it a definite advantage over a rear wheel drive car, it's much easier to pull a car along from the front than push it along from the rear........ 

I'd have said a wrong wheel, sorry, front wheel drive car would just spin the front wheels up as the load/weight shifted to the rear? Ok, maybe easier to keep on the straight and narrow, but acceleration wise, rubbish!

3 hours ago, Jason1145 said:

I'm going to split the categories into FWD, 4wd and RWD categories

No monster truck? 🙄

Looks like I'm upping my maxxum search! 

Or do I turn to the dark side and get a TC.....😈

[El Dougo]

Jason,

I must say that I'm a little bemused with the category split, your view on the drive difficulty as a measure is very subjective.  

I would suggest that if you want to break the board into categories the only real measure is the voltage, perhaps put it to a vote.

And thanks for the congrats on breaking the 60 barrier  

[El Dougo]

5 hours ago, SRB Bloke said:

Cheers for that, I'll try and pick one of those up.  Thanks

 

I use a Garmin forerunner 201, I got it of ebay for about £30 delivered.

[Jason1145]

52 minutes ago, El Dougo said:

Jason,

I must say that I'm a little bemused with the category split, your view on the drive difficulty as a measure is very subjective.  

I would suggest that if you want to break the board into categories the only real measure is the voltage, perhaps put it to a vote.

And thanks for the congrats on breaking the 60 barrier  

I'm almost tempted to buy a front wheel drive car to see how easy they are to speed run, I really do think they must be a piece of cake compared to a rear wheel drive car, of which I've done a few speed runs so know how hard they are to get up to the speeds seen on the list.

I like the category split as it is, should have done it ages ago really but these things evolve, the whole thread has changed a lot from the first inception and there's nothing to say it won't evolve again.

Congrats on breaking 60mph Dougo

 

[Wooders28]

58 minutes ago, Jason1145 said:

I'm almost tempted to buy a front wheel drive car 

I'm tempted, can't beat them, join them! (Not beaten just yet 😉) 

1 hour ago, Jason1145 said:

the whole thread has changed a lot from the first inception and there's nothing to say it won't evolve again.

I'm in favour of a silver can category, really just to see how far they can be pushed! (4s? 🙄) 

[Phil_H]

I have a RWD (SRB), 4wd (TT01) & the FF01.

FF01 is easy to control, but harder to get upto speed as it spins really easily (you can hear it still spinning when it comes pst.

The TT01 is the easiest to get up to speed (Need about half the distance as the FF)

The SRB is just a complete nightmare to keep in a straight line...but I think thats down to the 70's design, they weren't meant to do 40mph+ lol.

I say split the categories...but maybe 2wd/4wd & Monster truck...Or Brushed/Brushless 

[Phil_H]

And at least put an 'Overall' leader board...or Top 10

El Duogo's epic run deserves to be on the top spot of a list with more than 2 cars in  

[Jason1145]

7 hours ago, Phil_H said:

I have a RWD (SRB), 4wd (TT01) & the FF01.

FF01 is easy to control, but harder to get upto speed as it spins really easily (you can hear it still spinning when it comes pst.

The TT01 is the easiest to get up to speed (Need about half the distance as the FF)

The SRB is just a complete nightmare to keep in a straight line...but I think thats down to the 70's design, they weren't meant to do 40mph+ lol.

That's my point, if you try to have a RWD go past you with the rear wheels still spinning,  then rear tries to overtake the front of the car... this makes it harder to control on a speed run... but if you have a FWD car go past you still spinning the front wheels so what? It will still head pretty much straight all  by itself ( as long as it's set up properly) .. hence the FWD is going to be easier to control.

That fact the FWD car still has the front wheels spinning just means you haven't had a long enough run up.. the solution is go find a longer running area, (just like the running area the RWD car had - and you'll have enough room to stop spinning the rear), the FWD car will still try to go straight though.... hence easier to control on a speed run.

If the FWD car deserves more entries then you guys need to enter more FWD cars but they aren't too popular so far, I might add one before the years out, no promises though as it would only be for this thread

[Jason1145]

10 hours ago, Phil_H said:

 

El Duogo's epic run deserves to be on the top spot of a list with more than 2 cars in  

That fastest run was from a worms eye fixed point of view - 2cm off the ground, and it barely qualified as it was more luck than judgement it caught the 0MPH at the start of the video.

I prefer seeing the whole cars run, build up, slow down etc than just the 1 second it passes by from ground level.

That was a bare minimum requirement for what will be accept as a speed run entry so take heed guys or you'll be asked to do it again.

There have been some great video entries here let's keep the standard up, it's a combo of all these things required to make the list, not just a fast car.

Quote of the day 

"Anyone can drive a fast car, not everyone can drive a car fast"

True that.

[smirk-racing]

11 hours ago, El Dougo said:

 

I would suggest that if you want to break the board into categories the only real measure is the voltage, perhaps put it to a vote.

Why voltage? Higher volts are definitely important for long duration running (far less heat buildup). But for a few quick speed runs, cutting the volts and increasing the gearing, or running a higher KV motor, should not make a big difference.

I do love high voltage at the beach - the loose sand makes motor work incredibly hard, but running on 6s resulted in lower temps than I'd ever had before.

 

[MadInventor]

2 hours ago, Jason1145 said:

That's my point, if you try to have a RWD go past you with the rear wheels still spinning,  then rear tries to overtake the front of the car... this makes it harder to control on a speed run... but if you have a FWD car go past you still spinning the front wheels so what? It will still head pretty much straight all  by itself ( as long as it's set up properly) .. hence the FWD is going to be easier to control.

That fact the FWD car still has the front wheels spinning just means you haven't had a long enough run up.. the solution is go find a longer running area, (just like the running area the RWD car had - and you'll have enough room to stop spinning the rear), the FWD car will still try to go straight though.... hence easier to control on a speed run.

If the FWD car deserves more entries then you guys need to enter more FWD cars but they aren't too popular so far, I might add one before the years out, no promises though as it would only be for this thread

I agree the fwd overall is going to be easier to control. With regard to the running area, it's not necessarily harder to get up to speed as you don't have to start your run from a standing start. I try to drive towards my start point and then turn round at part throttle and then open it up for the speed run. This gives less wheelspin as you're already rolling, and as fwd can generally corner faster, the turn round should be able to be achieved faster. Like you, I'm also thinking about a fwd to try as I never owned one before

PS, If you're splitting the categories into fwd, rwd, and 4wd, can I be at the top of the heap of the 6wd category

[Wooders28]

1 hour ago, MadInventor said:

I try to drive towards my start point and then turn round at part throttle and then open it up for the speed run. 

I'm guessing everyone does that, every inch counts!! 🙄

4 hours ago, Jason1145 said:

I prefer seeing the whole cars run, build up, slow down etc than just the 1 second it passes by from ground level.

I agree, seeing it in the vid for 0.005 seconds doesn't really work.

If it wasn't for the fact that the body needs to come off etc, it could easily be fudged, I reckon I could swap my gps if it was out of shot for more than a couple of seconds, with it being on the top.

1 hour ago, MadInventor said:

If you're splitting the categories into fwd, rwd, and 4wd, can I be at the top of the heap of the 6wd category

6wd and 6s category 🤔

[Jason1145]

Fudging, I like that word, quite innocent for a devious act.

Actually that low down fixed camera angle can easily be cheated with, you could have two of the same model RC’s with the same bodyshell,  one has already got a fudged GPS showing max speed at say, 70mph, (taken in a real 1:1 car)  and then strapped onto the second RC….. , then as the first RC shows 0 MPH and then disappears out of shot in rolls the 2nd car with the fudged GPS past the camera at speed then comes back, off with the shell and voila, a 70mph run.

But who’d be devious enough to think of that? Ah yes… us fudgers lol.

 

Inventor - did you submit a 6wd vehicle?? If so yes that deserves a new category, so you can sit atop it!

 

And yes Madinventor and Wooders are right,  get a rolling start if possible,   some of my speed runs have been done on narrow roads only 6 metres wide and they are often hitting full pelt when they are going past my own parked car thus narrowing the road to about 3-4 metres.. like these efforts:

DT03 – 89KPH

Blitzer Beetle 84KPH

WT01 75.9KPH

You try hitting these speeds on a RWD car with only a 3-4 metre gap to get through and then you know what wallet buster, nut twister, buttock clencher means!

 

 

[MadInventor]

45 minutes ago, Jason1145 said:

 

Inventor - did you submit a 6wd vehicle?? If so yes that deserves a new category, so you can sit atop it!

Yep, the war rig is proper 6wd, and as wooders pointed out also 6S. Although if you have a 6S category, that will be slowest vehicle in it with its 1050Kv motor

[Wooders28]

1 hour ago, Jason1145 said:

You try hitting these speeds on a RWD car with only a 3-4 metre gap to get through and then you know what wallet buster, nut twister, buttock clencher means!

Thats the kind of road outside work ive done testing with, although with lorries parked down one side, which are high enough for the car to spin and tumble underneath! 

Have a look on Google earth I'm sure you'll have something nearby to give you a better run? 

[Jason1145]

6 minutes ago, Wooders28 said:

Have a look on Google earth I'm sure you'll have something nearby to give you a better run? 

You haven't been to North London much have you, developed ain't the word, and as soon as you find a nice space it fills up pretty quickly but that's half the fun isn't it, getting all the ingredients together.

 

[Wooders28]

6 minutes ago, Jason1145 said:

You haven't been to North London much have you

Luckily, no! lol

I'm sure there'll be a nice big train station car park empty on a Sunday morning.🙄

 

[Phil_H]

Agree with a lot that's been said, but still think an Overal top 10 would be good along with the category's.

My FF01 will hopefully be up and running next week, as long as it doesn't melt the Gearbox again I should have a FWD entry ready (at least 2nd place I hope lol)

As for cheating, that's a lot of effort for a small win on a RC forum leaderboard lol. 

 

As for space....I'm pretty lucky for that.

But a popular choice is a Car Park, a nice new one would be good (none round here) 

[El Dougo]

Here's the footage from the other camera, he needs to go on camera operator training but you can clearly see that there is no shenanigans going on.

An interesting discussion and I fully agree with Jason that things change and that the thread has to evolve. 

Regarding the voltage it works for ROSSA and it's as simple as more voltage = more power.  My personal view is that RWD is the most difficult then FWD and 4WD but it's not difficult to drive most RC's in a straight line.  I have lots of other RC's including an LOSI SCT RWD and it's very easy to drive at speed with it's conventional set up. I think Jason's view is driven from the experience of running his DT03 on crazy power with and a setup worthy of Wacky Racers, that can't be easy at all. 

It would be nice to see the amalgamated "Top 10" at the top as it fits with the thread title, if not perhaps re-brand to something like official fastest Tamiya's. 

On a positive note I'm now motivated with the next challenge and looking seriously at RWD options. It's nice to see the interest in the FF03 and it would be awesome to see a few more on the board   Surprised no one has asked how fast the fastest run was but for Phil's benefit I'll be posting over 70mph next time....  get busy! 

Can I get some likes for my new auto signature?

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Tamiya Club Officially Fastest RC'er

 

[Phil_H]

21 minutes ago, El Dougo said:

  Surprised no one has asked how fast the fastest run was but for Phil's benefit I'll be posting over 70mph next time....  get busy! 

 

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Tamiya Club Officialy fastest RC'er

 

I was impressed with 65mph to be honest haha.....

 

70mph!!!!!!! What!  The!   F! And you only have a 2s! 

 

I might have to re think my whole strategy

[Jason1145]

24 minutes ago, El Dougo said:

 

On a positive note I'm now motivated with the next challenge and looking seriously at RWD options. It's nice to see the interest in the FF03 and it would be awesome to see a few more on the board   Surprised no one has asked how fast the fastest run was but for Phil's benefit I'll be posting over 70mph next time....  get busy! 

Can I get some likes for my new auto signature?

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Tamiya Club Officialy fastest RC'er

 

As for the signature, you spelt "officially" wrong so no likes lol. (I liked it anyway)

On a positive note aswell, you have spiked interest in the FF03, and that Honda Civic shell has grown on me more and more!

I'll make an almagated top 10 RC list shortly, and yes more volts equals more power, poor Wooders still can't get top of the board with 5s compared to a 2s... this is why I don't think in this situation volts should have a category.

Carry on all.