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What happened to Vintage-Kyosho eBay seller?

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Yep.

Myles, who runs Vintage Kyosho is on a break.

His parents run Vintage Tamiya.

Can't wait for him to come back and start trading again.

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With regard to Vintage Tamiya, I'm afraid the truth is rather different from that stated above.

Vintage Tamiya were shut down by the Hobby Company (Tamiya's UK importer).

The license Hobby Company now have with Tamiya Japan, is that only the Hobby Company can supply Tamiya products to business sellers in the UK (Online stores and Retail Shops).

Vintage Tamiya were 'Grey Importing' from the far east, which is now illegal.

Myles, may have taken a break from selling the Kyosho parts, but of that, I'm can't be sure.

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, europro975 said:

 

Vintage Tamiya were 'Grey Importing' from the far east, which is now illegal.

 

Has UK enacted legislation to make it an actual CRIMINAL offence?

Or is it still merely Civil.

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27 minutes ago, WillyChang said:

Has UK enacted legislation to make it an actual CRIMINAL offence?

Or is it still merely Civil.

"illegal" is definitely the wrong word.

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Apologies, illegal may be a bit strong.

Any UK business found selling Tamiya products purchased from outside the UK, are at risk of been taken to court.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, europro975 said:

Any UK business found selling Tamiya products purchased from outside the UK, are at risk of been taken to court.

How would that be enforceable Tony?

There is no contract between T & UK-reseller-of-greysourced-goods.

T sells to distributors in each country, making each one promise not to allow export. If one of them &/or his agent breaks that promise then all T can do is to sue that distributor & other such recourse.

Or are they trying that ole ruse of attempting to declare genuine-but-greysourced goods as Counterfeit?! :blink: 

 

sigh, so much politics... TOY CARS people!! 

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Ah yes, but it just STARTS at Toy Cars, then it moves onto Toy doll houses and then it progresses to REAL CARS and REAL Doll Houses and then the whole world turns inside out and we all melt from the fiery inferno that is the Earth's core because the balance of good and evil are completey misunderstood and the right people didn't get their money and well, that would be just wrong. :P:blink:


DOUBLE SIGH :D

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How u know I build toy dollhouses (roughly 1/10-1/12th scale) :blink:... for trackside scenery... you do too? :P

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19 hours ago, WillyChang said:

How would that be enforceable Tony?

There is no contract between T & UK-reseller-of-greysourced-goods.

T sells to distributors in each country, making each one promise not to allow export. If one of them &/or his agent breaks that promise then all T can do is to sue that distributor & other such recourse.

Or are they trying that ole ruse of attempting to declare genuine-but-greysourced goods as Counterfeit?! :blink: 

 

sigh, so much politics... TOY CARS people!! 

It sounds like the distributor taking the reseller to court, rather than Tamiya themselves taking action. Presumably somewhere in the reseller's contract with the distributor is a clause saying something like 'you will only buy Tamiya goodies from us'. If anyone gets caught grey-importing then the distributor takes them to court for breach of contract. Basically the distributor protecting their turf.

Though if someone was only dealing with grey imports and didn't buy anything from the national distributor, they'd probably be fairly safe because they wouldn't be breaching any contracts.

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Well, you can only sue for breach of contract if there was a contract to start of with. If distributor had originally gone "sod off we're not wholesaling to you because you don't have a proper shop & you're only selling out of your mummy's garage" then there's no contract binding.

What I hear, from "luxury brand" trials, are official distributors trying to get at grey importers for unauthorised/misuse of brandname/trademark/patent etc... even if the greymarketer is selling legit original goods from the same foreign factory.

There's no distinction between New or Used stock either, so You or I could be similarly liable come when we decide to sell a few preloved brandname toycars. :unsure:

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