Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 My TT02B truck build has made me a lot more interested in the high-rise thing. Please edumacate me. Why pick a TXT? Which models use a TXT? Thanks. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWINSET 1793 Posted July 9, 2017 The TXT-1 was the first 'TXT' but it took the axles (and, I think, gearbox) from the Juggernaut 2 which was an improvement to the Jugg 1 (the original Jugg axles had reliability issues and were updated via a 'care package') There's also the newest variant, the Agrios which has the same axles as the Jugg2 and TXT but a new chassis Juggernaut Juggernaut 2 TXT-1 TXT-2 Agrios 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flerbizky 225 Posted July 9, 2017 @TWINSET Thank you for that. Had been meaning to dig this out for myself, but not yet gotten around to it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 TXT. That's an impressive bit of kit. I presume the LB and MP use the same underwear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWINSET 1793 Posted July 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said: TXT. That's an impressive bit of kit. I presume the LB and MP use the same underwear? No, apart from a few screws I doubt there's any common components LB rear axle is similar (if not same as) Grasshopper etc. Closest comparison shot I could find is below Truck on left is Lunchbox, truck on right is a Clodbuster - Whilst not sharing much with the TXT, it uses the same tyres and is a similar size to a TXT Here's a Clodbuster/TXT comparison 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 Looks like my learning curve has gone vertical. How would you choose between a LB and a MP. Apparently, my collection won't be complete without one of them, and I'm selling off some of my smaller boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWINSET 1793 Posted July 9, 2017 The LB and MP are the same chassis just the bodies and wheel colour are different - Deciding between them is personal preference I prefer the MP body, never really been a fan of the one-piece chrome lump on the front of the LB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, TWINSET said: 3 hours ago, Granddad Stinky said: TXT. That's an impressive bit of kit. I presume the LB and MP use the same underwear? No, apart from a few screws I doubt there's any common components 1 hour ago, TWINSET said: The LB and MP are the same chassis just the bodies and wheel colour are different - Deciding between them is personal preference I prefer the MP body, never really been a fan of the one-piece chrome lump on the front of the LB I'm a little confused now. 🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWINSET 1793 Posted July 9, 2017 Confused about what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadInventor 3881 Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Granddad Stinky said: Looks like my learning curve has gone vertical. How would you choose between a LB and a MP. Apparently, my collection won't be complete without one of them, and I'm selling off some of my smaller boats. I wouldn't choose between a LB or MP, I'd go for a TXT-1 if you can find at a reasonable price, or the more readily available clod. Personal preference, but feel a Monster truck isn't a monster truck if it isn't 4wd. This is my version of a Lunch Box 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 Now THAT is more like an engineers model. Superb! Can you disable the four wheel steering? I think you'll approve of my truck build when it's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 9, 2017 I'm biased but the clod is a workhorse. It's got a large network support outside of Tamiya, a cultural following and with a few tweeks and a bit of creative thinking you can do alsorts. The box clod is almost a red herring as this thing cries out to be made into something it's far more natural at. It's like Tamiya designed the base truck as a joke and like old computer games, required a "hack" or "secret" to access its sweet spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 9, 2017 Might be a while until I can afford that kind of dosh. So it really is worth the outlay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said: Might be a while until I can afford that kind of dosh. So it really is worth the outlay? What the dosh on a clod? The stock truck was about 220-240 ish I think. But if you stray from the path and want to mod, clods can run to £££ or not cost that much extra. Depends on what you've already got in your spares bin and imagination. I did spend a fair wack. A lot of that was to convert it to double lipo, double esc and double servo steering. Plus I had to buy the tools necessary for some of the engineering and spares I wanted to do to lower it. But tools are an investment and that project was just mine and I managed the outlay poorly. Most people run box clods and love them. For me I had in my minds eye a clod number 1 project and I simply couldn't stick with stock. Is it worth it? Well it's my favourite. I look at that truck and I'm instantly in love. My family all think it whizzes all over my others ha. It's the only one where people go "blimey that's big", or "isn't it cute with those big wheels". And I know I can beach it or run it along the thick grass in a garden. I can't say if it's worth it for you. That comes from if something lights a fire inside project wise. For me i saw mod trucks on the internet and watched a lot of "risky concepts rc" on YouTube and knew I wanted a proper truck. If you're only half cocked, it can be a lot of money and leaving you feeling flat. But if you're really into them, it's worth it. I found solid axle monsters trucks with big tyres can get you a little bit hooked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 10, 2017 I had no interest until I started my Tt02b project. It already has larger wheels than I planned, all the ground clearance I can possibly engineer into it. Then I thought, I'll pop into the Truck forum bit and have a quick browse. Here I am chatting trucks, that wasn't on the menu this morning. I'll have to see how much my boats make, you never know what might happen. I spent my life in engineering, a lot of R+D in the MOD and a long spell at British Aerospace. I have a small lathe with milling attachment, any small parts i can see, I can usually duplicate. Hop ups shouldn't be a problem. I'm currently trying a billet wheel from a bit of scrap. Oh, thanks for the advice Mr Jam, I appreciate it. 😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said: I had no interest until I started my Tt02b project. It already has larger wheels than I planned, all the ground clearance I can possibly engineer into it. Then I thought, I'll pop into the Truck forum bit and have a quick browse. Here I am chatting trucks, that wasn't on the menu this morning. I'll have to see how much my boats make, you never know what might happen. I spent my life in engineering, a lot of R+D in the MOD and a long spell at British Aerospace. I have a small lathe with milling attachment, any small parts i can see, I can usually duplicate. Hop ups shouldn't be a problem. I'm currently trying a billet wheel from a bit of scrap. Oh, thanks for the advice Mr Jam, I appreciate it. 😁 I have a tt02b! It got me back into the hobby. I decided to adopt the Donald Campbell approach. In that my tt02b was bluebird and it would go faster by stages of development until it went into orbit or destructed into oblivion along the test track. It's in the shop needing a complete rebuild but has a castle 57 in it. I hate to pour petrol on your burning embers of interest and lead you further down a path, but with your engineering background, mod clods or any "proper" big tyre monster trucks would be like catnip to those skills ;-). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, Buggyjam said: I have a tt02b! It got me back into the hobby. I decided to adopt the Donald Campbell approach. In that my tt02b was bluebird and it would go faster by stages of development until it went into orbit or destructed into oblivion along the test track. It's in the shop needing a complete rebuild but has a castle 57 in it. I hate to pour petrol on your burning embers of interest and lead you further down a path, but with your engineering background, mod clods or any "proper" big tyre monster trucks would be like catnip to those skills ;-). Have you seen this? https://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/83038-granddad-stinkys-first-custom-build/& Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said: Have you seen this? https://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/83038-granddad-stinkys-first-custom-build/& When I clicked on it all the frames where the photos should be, had a photobucket message saying "update your account to allow 3rd party hosting". Shame as would've liked to have seen that. Is it your TT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 10, 2017 I was on Photobucket but I've shifted to imgur. There's an update towards the end with pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadInventor 3881 Posted July 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Granddad Stinky said: I had no interest until I started my Tt02b project. It already has larger wheels than I planned, all the ground clearance I can possibly engineer into it. Then I thought, I'll pop into the Truck forum bit and have a quick browse. Here I am chatting trucks, that wasn't on the menu this morning. I'll have to see how much my boats make, you never know what might happen. I spent my life in engineering, a lot of R+D in the MOD and a long spell at British Aerospace. I have a small lathe with milling attachment, any small parts i can see, I can usually duplicate. Hop ups shouldn't be a problem. I'm currently trying a billet wheel from a bit of scrap. Oh, thanks for the advice Mr Jam, I appreciate it. 😁 You can still pick up second hand clod busters on Ebay for around the £70-£90 mark, you have a much more 'engineering' background than me, and I built this from a £60 clod and some scrap aluminium, and I'd say there isn't anything on there you wouldn't be able to make. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flerbizky 225 Posted July 10, 2017 I'm currently sitting at my desk using it as an anvil for my head. Not very many days ago, someone, on the danish equivalent of Craigslist, listed a Clod and a TXT-1 in the same ad - for £150. Old. Cracked tires. As I already have 2 x Clod and a Jugg2 - I didn't think I needed them. He who snoozes etc..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Granddad Stinky 975 Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, MadInventor said: You can still pick up second hand clod busters on Ebay for around the £70-£90 mark, you have a much more 'engineering' background than me, and I built this from a £60 clod and some scrap aluminium, and I'd say there isn't anything on there you wouldn't be able to make. That's a great piece of work. Is there anything left of the original? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flerbizky 225 Posted July 10, 2017 43 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said: That's a great piece of work. Is there anything left of the original? Axle/gearbox housing at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Granddad Stinky said: I was on Photobucket but I've shifted to imgur. There's an update towards the end with pics. Got it, that's a cool project I like it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buggyjam 143 Posted July 10, 2017 With access to machine tools and your skillset you could easily pick up a donor or pair of second hand axles and wheels with good tyres and make the rest. Crawford engineering manufacture lots of clod race style and retro chassis. Good for inspiration. Then you make your links. Clods tend to be standard 4 link running from the axles or "race link" running 2 from the top of the trans housing. Add a body and some shocks and you're there. Say £60 for donor axles/tyres, £40 for body, £40-50 for shocks and then £50 for raw materials. You could probably fab a mod clod up for less than the price of a kit that way minus the electrics. Other outlay would depend if you wanted dual escs and steering etc, but if you've a pair of escs and spare servos already the expense would be minimal as all you've need would be some y leads, a reverser lead and to make your own mounting plates and links for the servos. clodtalk forum is good for ideas, not just clods but all big trucks and modding. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
