What Now?

[Granddad Stinky]

Here’s the list of my stable.

Buggies. 2WD Gator, 4WD Plasma Edge.

Revival Race cars. 2WD Stock Holiday Buggy, 4WD Optima.

Speed Project TA01. 

Monster Truggy TT02B thing.

WL 12428.

Sand specific Sandmaster.

Big, loud, smelly, shouty Hobao.

The question is.... what do I do next? I think I have a car to cover almost all running conditions, so I wondering what I can do that’s different. Preferably something to occupy what’s left of the old duffer’s brain, rather than just put a kit together.

Answers in a postcard or a stuck-down envelope please, to...

The Guy With the Beard, Swop Shop, BBC Television Centre etc.

[tamiya3speed]

Clodbuster or similar monster.

[nowinaminute]

Big monster or a scale crawler? 

[TurnipJF]

You seem to have a pretty decent fleet going there. However there are some categories that are not yet represented. Some which spring to mind include a monster truck (your TT-02B is more of a stadium truck), F1, drifter, scaler, stunt/comic, modern touring, and then if looking at other scales, lorry and tank.

 

Monster trucks:

Since you seem to like the building and modding side of things, a TXT2 seems to be a complex build with plenty of scope for mods, and of course there is the Clod as @tamiya3speed suggests. There are so many mods and aftermarket parts available for the Clod that you can build one containing no original Tamiya components whatsoever!

 

F1:

The recent re-re-release of the Tyrrell P34 looks like an interesting little project a bit out of the ordinary. Then there is the venerable F103 which as many modification options - like the Clod you can build one containing pretty much no original parts should you want to. The modern TRFs are a lovely precision build, although possibly not your scene because they are pretty much perfect out of the box with little scope for mods.

 

Drifter:

Not a scene I know a great deal about, but nonetheless one which seems full of modification opportunities, as drifters seem to be constantly seeking more lock, more camber, more scale accuracy with things like moving windscreen wipers, smoking exhausts, etc.

 

Scaler:

Kinda like drifting but offroad, with the same constant drive for scale accuracy while trying to get more out of the chassis, be it lock, articulation or whatever. There have been some great CC-01 projects on here - those by @Effigy3 and @XV Pilot spring to mind for example. Maybe it is time to see a Granddad Stinky version, with loads of custom-machined precision parts?

 

Stunt/comic:

The kings and queens of custom such as @JennyMo, @IBIFTKH and @speedy_w_beans have shown the myriad modification possibilities for the WR-02, GF-01, CW-01 and similar vehicles. Perhaps Willy would like a Granddad Stinky take on the theme?

 

Modern touring:

The TA-01 speed project looks interesting, but touring car tech has moved on a fair bit since then. Perhaps you'd enjoy taking a basic TT and making it special, or perhaps starting with a car that is already pretty good, such as a TA-07, and making it amazing?

 

Lorries and tanks:

These are typically big, expensive projects that can last years, with the scope to build pretty much everything from scratch - see the amazing work by @MadInventor for example.

[Kingfisher]

You need an M-chassis.

[Prescient]

1 hour ago, Granddad Stinky said:

Here’s the list of my stable.

Buggies. 2WD Gator, 4WD Plasma Edge.

Revival Race cars. 2WD Stock Holiday Buggy, 4WD Optima.

Speed Project TA01. 

Monster Truggy TT02B thing.

WL 12428.

Sand specific Sandmaster.

Big, loud, smelly, shouty Hobao.

The question is.... what do I do next? I think I have a car to cover almost all running conditions, so I wondering what I can do that’s different. Preferably something to occupy what’s left of the old duffer’s brain, rather than just put a kit together.

Answers in a postcard or a stuck-down envelope please, to...

The Guy With the Beard, Swop Shop, BBC Television Centre etc.

You're getting a Clod for Xmas aren't you?

Honestly something like a TA03R Avex Dome Mugen NSX or Honda 99T F1 car would give you some great kits and vintage fun. 

Alternatively a WT01 Blackfoot Xtreme is a great option. 

Some great value new examples of the above on eBay at the moment.

TXT-2 or Juggernaut are good but costly 

[Granddad Stinky]

26 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

You seem to have a pretty decent fleet going there. However there are some categories that are not yet represented. Some which  spring to mind include a monster truck (Your TT-02B is more of a stadium truck), F1, drifter, scaler, stunt/comic, modern touring, and then if looking at other scales, lorry and tank.

 

Monster trucks:

Since you seem to like the building and modding side of things, a TXT2 seems to be a complex build with plenty of scope for mods, and of course there is the Clod as @tamiya3speed suggests. There are so many mods and aftermarket parts available for the Clod that you can build one containing no original Tamiya components whatsoever!

 

F1:

The recent re-re-release of the Tyrrell P34 looks like an interesting little project a bit out of the ordinary. Then there is the venerable F103 which as many modification options - like the Clod you can build one containing pretty much no original parts should you want to. The modern TRFs are a lovely precision build, although possibly not your scene because they are pretty much perfect out of the box with little scope for mods.

 

Drifter:

Not a scene I know a great deal about, but nonetheless one which seems full of modification opportunities, as drifters seem to be constantly seeking more lock, more camber, more scale accuracy with things like moving windscreen wipers, smoking exhausts, etc.

 

Scaler:

Kinda like drifting but offroad, with the same constant drive for scale accuracy while trying to get more out of the chassis, be it lock, articulation or whatever. There have been some great CC-01 projects on here - maybe it is time to see a Granddad Stinky version, with loads of custom-machined precision parts?

 

Stunt/comic:

The kings and queens of custom such as @JennyMo, @IBIFTKH and @speedy_w_beans have shown the myriad modification possibilities for the WR-02, GF-01, CW-01 and similar vehicles. Perhaps Willy would like a Granddad Stinky take on the theme?

 

Modern touring:

The TA-01 speed project looks interesting,but touring car thech has moved on a fair bit since then. Perhaps you'd enjoy taking a basic TT and making it special, or perhaps starting with a car that is already pretty good, such as a TA-07, and making it amazing?

 

Lorries and tanks:

These are typically big, expensive projects that can last years, with the scope to build pretty much everything from scratch - see the amazing work by @MadInventor for example.

Wow! Strewth! That would have taken me a year to type all that!

Monster Truck/Lorry/Tank. I agree about mine, that’s why I call it a Monster Truggy. If I built a MT it would have to be big and we don’t have a lot of storage space, I’m in a disabled flat now.

F1 and Drifter are not really my thing. I did consider a rally car, but I have road tyres for the buggies. Same for the touring. I’d struggle to find a suitable running space as well.

Stunt/Funny is worth a look, I hadn’t thought of that. 

The scaler idea had taken my interest. That would give me scope for some custom design and engineering. I was impressed by the animated Sand Rover driver that was on here.

Whats the basic differences between the “C” chassis types?

[Granddad Stinky]

6 minutes ago, Prescient said:

You're getting a Clod for Xmas aren't you?

Honestly something like a TA03R Avex Dome Mugen NSX or Honda 99T F1 car would give you some great kits and vintage fun. 

Alternatively a WT01 Blackfoot Xtreme is a great option. 

TXT-2 or Juggernaut are good but costly 

Slight change of plan there. I’ve recently turned into the Bank Of Dad, to bail my daughter out of a bad relationship. The Clod is off the purchase list, but probably not such a bad thing, space is becoming an issue. The hallway walls already look like a stacking boat yard. Some of them may have to go.

[TurnipJF]

 

18 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said:

Whats the basic differences between the “C” chassis?

CC-01:

Double wishbone front, 4-link rear. Plastic tub chassis. Accurate scale proportions for a road-legal vehicle. Usually quite affordable.

 

CR-01:

4-linked front and rear, metal chassis rails with plastic attachments, most of which are also available in alloy. Longer, wider and taller than a CC-01, making for better performance off road, but not all that accurate scale-wise. Usually rather expensive.

 

CW-01:

Single wishbone front, mother/gearbox/axle pod rear. A stunt chassis resembling a small monster truck, very simple and quite rugged, shares a lot of parts and design elements with the Grasshopper and Hornet. Usually quite affordable.

 

If space is an issue, the CC-01 is the narrowest of the bunch, and can probably be improved the most through customisation. Price wise it also makes sense.

[Granddad Stinky]

16 minutes ago, Kingfisher said:

You need an M-chassis.

The Speed Run car is together and running round on the 13t brushed motor that it came with. I’m using that to shim and adjust as much play from the chassis before going faster. I think stability is the No.1 priority at the moment. I’ve made some card templates for an under tray and F1 style rear splitter.

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10 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

 

CC-01:

Double wishbone front, 4-link rear. Plastic tub chassis. Accurate scale proportions for a road-legal vehicle. Usually quite affordable.

 

CR-01:

4-linked front and rear, metal chassis rails with plastic attachments, most of which are also available in alloy. Longer, wider and taller than a CC-01, making for better performance off road, but not all that accurate scale-wise. Usually rather expensive.

 

CW-01:

Single wishbone front, mother/gearbox/axle pod rear. A stunt chassis resembling a small monster truck, very simple and quite rugged, shares a lot of parts and design elements with the Grasshopper and Hornet. Usually quite affordable.

 

If space is an issue, the CC-01 is the narrowest of the bunch, and can probably be improved the most through customisation. Price wise it also makes sense.

I’m most grateful for that. I like the idea of doing something as realistic as possible. Some of this is from Doctor’s orders. I have to keep my brain as active as I can. 😁

I think today’s task is some CC homework. 👍🤝

[Prescient]

21 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said:

Slight change of plan there. I’ve recently turned into the Bank Of Dad, to bail my daughter out of a bad relationship. The Clod is off the purchase list, but probably not such a bad thing, space is becoming an issue. The hallway walls already look like a stacking boat yard. Some of them may have to go.

So what's your budget as the super clod isn't that expensive and going another route will budget chomp?

[Granddad Stinky]

Just now, Prescient said:

So what's your budget as the super clod isn't that expensive and going another route will budget chomp?

My £260 for the Clod is now a deposit on a one bedroom flat.😖

If I’m going to change and remake parts for a CC, I might buy a used one. There’s no point in swapping out new parts.

[Kingfisher]

13 minutes ago, Granddad Stinky said:

Might just be the angle of the picture, but it kind of looks like that front spoiler may give you lift instead of downforce.

[Granddad Stinky]

3 minutes ago, Kingfisher said:

Might just be the angle of the picture, but it kind of looks like that front spoiler may give you lift instead of downforce.

It’s the angle. The tangent at the leading edge is parallel with the “road”. I’ll also have a negative pressure venturi effect between the wing and hood/bonnet, like an upside down aircraft wing.

[Granddad Stinky]

I’m quite attracted to the old school look of this. I remember when the real 1:1 was on sale. 😕

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F362114134694

[Granddad Stinky]

Just been watching this. I think there would be a good scope for custom parts. The suspension seems a bit stiff though, so that could be adapted.

 

[TurnipJF]

That Bronco in the video has some nice aesthetically pleasing mods like the driver figure and steel wheels, but the suspension appears stock apart from the rear shock mounts, still utilising the less-than-optimal plastic link arrangement. With your machining skills, I'm sure you could improve matters significantly with a home-made Junfac-style rear.

[markbt73]

If you're looking for something you can really sink your teeth into, then scalers are the way to go. I'm actually about two steps away from giving up on anything that goes over 10mph, because I'm having so much fun with the slow crawly trucks. And once you get a good chassis together, you get to start the real fun of hand-building your own bodies for it, complete with lights, mirrors, interiors, etc.

The CC01 is a decent starting point, and you can certainly modify it to improve on its weaknesses (appalling steering, poor approach-angle clearance, short suspension travel), but there are other non-Tamiya places to start, which also have the advantage of having solid axles at both ends for better performance.

For example:

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/ECX01009

Or if you want something a bit more sophisticated:

http://www.rc-mst.com/product.php?class_sn=25&class_sn2=114

And the MST CMX is actually designed to take Tamiya CC01 bodies, so you could still have a Bronco (excellent choice, by the way; I'm awfully fond of them as well).

[Granddad Stinky]

4 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

That Bronco in the video has some nice aesthetically pleasing mods like the driver figure and steel wheels, but the suspension appears stock apart from the rear shock mounts, still utilising the less-than-optimal plastic link arrangement. With your machining skills, I'm sure you could improve matters significantly with a home-made Junfac-style rear.

Just looked up Junfac. I think I know where this is going, this looks much more involving than a Clod. I’d rather make gradual improvements and make it a “model”, than throw a heap of bolt-on parts at a big truck.

I guess that’s the beauty of a Tamiya, it’s more of a model than other, more performance oriented makes.

[nowinaminute]

1 hour ago, Granddad Stinky said:

I’m most grateful for that. I like the idea of doing something as realistic as possible. Some of this is from Doctor’s orders. I have to keep my brain as active as I can. 😁

I think today’s task is some CC homework. 👍🤝

I definitely want to get a CC01 at some point. Obviously it's not going to be as good at off roading in the ultimate sense as a dedicated crawler but still a good off roader when driven with care and seemingly limitless customisation options.

They seem versatile too, plenty of videos on YouTube of them being bashed around at high speed as well as slow hiking up trails.

They might not be the most capable rock crawler in the grand scheme of things but they certainly do well for something so scale looking. A year ago when I first got back into RC I just assumed they were beefed up on road vehicles with no real capability until I saw what they could do on video.

I have a nice LR discovery shell from a toy grade stashed away somewhere that's waiting for a CC01 lol.

 

[topforcein]

have you not given thought to a 3 speed either a 1/14 truck or a pick up truck you will absolutly  love the build