shock comparison!

[turbocharged s15(2)]

hey club. I was wondering well birth day is coming up soon and usally i get money so im going to do lots of stuff like new esc,motor,body,wheel/tires ect. But i was looking at adding the TRF Super low friction dampers.Right now i have the cva mini2 but will it be a big differece in handling wise. Will it be a big increase.I mean will it be a better choice than the cva's. I just wanted to know anybodys opions or knowledge if the have did the same thing. Thanks

[WillyChang]

Absolutely no difference! Build them well and they all work just the same as plastic CVAs. Oh, there's also 'new' florine-coated ones, but the coating just makes them harder-wearing.

The TRF dampers have threaded bodies though, so you don't use/lose shock clips. Thread adjustment is handy, but you'll now need to physically measure your settings to make sure they're all equal.

[turbocharged s15(2)]

so your saying it really isn't worth buying unless your going for looks?Is that it.Would i be able to put the flourine (blue) coated shock bodies on the cva mini2.If so what all would i need.Thanks

[Shodog]

What Willy is saying is that the perfromance gains will be marginal. I would spend the money elsewhere like buying the best ESC you can afford. An esc will travel with you from car to car

Jim

[WillyChang]

Yup, a shock is a shock - once you've got oil shocks, any further gains is marginal. Shock body material doesn't make much difference on a touring car. In an offroader maybe, as the metal can conduct & lose heat (shock oil heats up as it dampens) better than plastic; but the improvement would be barely noticeable to a layperson. Gotta admit Tamiya's CVAs in any form all work pretty well if you build them right.

If you wanted to build the ultimate CVA... guess you could go with the florine bodies, teflon pistons and hardened shock shafts. You'd want real stiff bits to mount them on too... like carbonfibre shock towers and stiff suspension arms. World's best shocks on a floppy chassis is just eye candy.

If you're into racing, I'd spend the $$ elsewhere though. Like on good tyres & suitable inserts, good batteries, good charger. Assuming you already have a decent motor, ESC & radio.

ps: I think fluorine is colourless. That blue is just anodising. []

[mr_lister999.]

quote:Yup, a shock is a shock - once you've got oil shocks, any further gains is marginal

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A shock is a shock!, no way Willy i really have to disagree with you on that point. Cheap oil shocks are nasty, they get air in and loose oil. I love those tamiya metal dampers, they are smooth and never leaked in over 2 years of racing. I have the serpent oil shocks on my Xray and i really like them becasue you can adjust the holes in the pistons by just turining the piston rod! Still prefer the tamiya ones for quality though and do feel they work better.

If you compare the plastic to metal versions of tamiyas (like the ones in TA03) to the alloy ones then yes, performance difference is very slight. I am a believer in generally you get what you pay for!

[Whacky]

He mr_lister999,

I agree but when bashing the car on the streets or parkinglot with a TT-01 it is not woth spending $$$$ on TRF shocks.

First the car came with friction shocks so any oilfilled shock is a increase in performance and like he says he has CVA shocks on it now.

turbocharged s15, spend the cash on the new centershaft or some tires/wheels/inserts or a good ESC and motor, this will give you more performance than some nice eyecandy shocks!

-Whacky.

[turbocharged s15(2)]

ya hey thanks. All my motor and radio and esc and stuff is already upgraded but im looking to upgrade it even more with a hotter motor and differnt esc than the futaba one i have now. Im getting my aluminum shaft here soon and the the motor im getting is a 14t double along with new rim/tires and a body and other stuff. Well thanks for your help.

[turbocharged s15(2)]

hey im out of the parking lot bashing now i race mine at the track with tl-01s and tb-01s.Thanks

[WillyChang]

quote:Originally posted by mr_lister999.

..Cheap oil shocks are nasty, they get air in and loose oil.

If you compare the plastic to metal versions of tamiyas (like the ones in TA03) to the alloy ones then yes, performance difference is very slight. I am a believer in generally you get what you pay for!

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Haha, yes... only comparing Tamiya CVAs.

I wouldn't buy any other brand of shocks; who'd buy aftermarket plastic ones anyway. []

But as for kit plastic shocks... Tamiya's works great, HPI isn't too bad either (I've both alloy and plastic HPIs). I think its all down to accurate molding and good seals; seals can be retrofitted too.

[turbocharged s15(2)]

Does anybody think there is a aluminum shaft that measure right at 7in.Does anybody know of any.The tt-01 aluminum shaft hasn't came out yet and im not sure if it is anytime soon.I would order it from hobbylink japan but im not sure how much the shippping is to florida.Thanks[8D][8D][8D]

[WillyChang]

The hopup shaft is definitely on the 2003 partslist... whether its actually shipping or not I don't know.

Can probably fit it into a standard letter envelope anyway... postage can't be too expensive imho. Try HLJ or RainbowTen maybe.