Am I the only one that doesn't glue tires?

[78Triumph]

 I never glue tires.  I've never noticed the tires spinning on the rims so I just have never done it.  Do you glue tires?  It also seems like you can never get the tires back off without wrecking the rim.  I don't know though, correct me if I'm way off here, I'm still a relative noob.

[Wooders28]

I never used to bitd (apart from Ultima fronts), but didn't have brushless and lipo either! 

Clamped wheels like on the hornet, brat, rear Ultima etc I don't glue, but modern stuff ,I superglue.

20 mins in a steamer removes the tyres (pliers and a cloth to hold a hot wheel) and the wheels are fine.

[Wooders28]

My neo fighter, rears glued, fronts I thought had been glued! 🤔 (2nd hand car) 

 

[Kingfisher]

I've seen our Lunchbox spinning the rim inside the tire right after we built it. I've peeled tires right off of the rims of my M06 when making a turn on concrete, and I pulled the bead over the rim on a Neo Scorcher in grass. I glue all of them, except the CC01. I drive it through mud and water, and water gets inside the rim through the air holes. I like to be able to take the tires off and clean it out.

[Kingfisher]

4 minutes ago, Wooders28 said:

My neo fighter, rears glued, fronts I thought had been glued! 🤔 (2nd hand car) 

 

The ending, when the car is coming back to you, HAHAHA! I've done that with 1 wheel, but not both at the same time! 

[Saito2]

I virtually never glue tires either. I'm cheap and often swap tires and wheels around. If my monster truck tires start to slip, I run rubber bands in the bead to give some grip. If I have no alternative, I'll use some clear silicon which peels off easier than super glue. I'm not a racer, but a vintage freak. I do understand the need to glue tires. I just avoid it myself.

[Wooders28]

26 minutes ago, Kingfisher said:

The ending, when the car is coming back to you, HAHAHA! I've done that with 1 wheel, but not both at the same time! 

I wish I had been better with my, phone taped to the controller, filming technique, both tyres came off at exactly the same time and just carried on rolling! Got them both back and glued them for the next run 😁

If you're not having tyre issues, then there's no reason to glue, but once you get faster, start leaning on the tyres more, they'll let you know soon enough 🙄😂

[Saito2]

 The comment as the buggy came back was priceless. "Well, that didn't go as planned..."

[Tamiyabigstuff]

I don't glue tyres either.

If a tyre slips then some silicone sealant is all I use - holds the tyre securely in place and cleans off easily if needed.

Really don't understand why people would use superglue as it is a pain to clean off.

[Losi XXT-CR]

10 hours ago, 78Triumph said:

 I never glue tires.  I've never noticed the tires spinning on the rims so I just have never done it.  Do you glue tires?  It also seems like you can never get the tires back off without wrecking the rim.  I don't know though, correct me if I'm way off here, I'm still a relative noob.

I think it depends on rim and tyre and your intended use. Back in my racing days with soft grippy tyres it was mandatory to glue them on. As they’d rip right off in less than a lap otherwise. 

Never thought of using silicone sealer but a few have mentioned it. This is probably well worth trying if you are having tyre issues. 

On the flip side. If the vehicle is a basher and you aren’t having issues with the tyres slipping on the rims. Then no reason to do anything. If it ain’t broke....

[Peter_B]

I've only glue the rears of my Aqroshot. 

I fitted some Proline Dirt Hawgs and they kept coming off the wheels.

I think those tyres are 2.2 inch and the wheels are the tamiya 2.1 or so.

44 minutes ago, Tamiyabigstuff said:

I don't glue tyres either.

If a tyre slips then some silicone sealant is all I use - holds the tyre securely in place and cleans off easily if needed.

Really don't understand why people would use superglue as it is a pain to clean off.

Any recommendations for what silicone to use?

[gizard]

Hmm I don't like glueing tyres either purely for the ability to easily change them - hence my other thread on bead locks for Tamiya v-profile tyres!

[Tamiyabigstuff]

Just now, Peter_B said:

I've only glue the rears of my Aqroshot. 

I fitted some Proline Dirt Hawgs and they kept coming off the wheels.

I think those tyres are 2.2 inch and the wheels are the tamiya 2.1 or so.

Any recommendations for what silicone to use?

Just normal silicone sealant - the sort you get for bathroom or kitchen use - any brand should do it.

I have used the '151' brand - comes in a small tube as either clear or white but I have used black sealant from a large tube - the sort you get at a DIY store or builders merchants. 

[Wooders28]

1 hour ago, Tamiyabigstuff said:

Really don't understand why people would use superglue as it is a pain to clean off.

If you're racing, then superglue is one of the only options, to make sure they stay on the rims. With tyres only lasting maybe 3 meetings, and a steamer making taking old tyres off a breeze, it's not that big of a deal tbh.

(Note, I only use the 8 for £1 from Poundland, top quality superglue maybe different story!)

[Mad Ax]

I never used to glue my wheels BITD, mostly because I was young and didn't have access to superglue.  We never kept it in the house.  Also I hated the idea that I wouldn't be able to change tyres later.  Nobody had steamers back in the early 90s  

Now I glue them if needed.  Problem is I don't always know if needed until too late.  A few weeks ago I dragged out my old Hummer and threw some Fastrax Kong tyres on the stock wheels.  I loaned it to a mate so he could join me on a scale crawling day.  A couple of hours in one tyre came off and dirt got all over the rim - too late to glue it without taking it back home, cleaning it and drying it.  Once it had got water inside that was it, it was off on every climb.  By the end of the day all the tyres had come off at least 3 times; added to the fact that the Hummer (even heavily modded) wasn't really up to the course we were doing, which was made for SCX10-IIs and Ascenders and custom-built crawling rigs, it made for a frustrating day for him.

I also never glued my Tamiya slick tyres when I was carpet racing as I basically couldn't be bothered, and never had an issue.  Then I got fed up with having poor grip so I invested in some super-grippy Sorex tyres like everyone else was using.  Lined up on the start line for race 1, waited for the laptimer to call my number, pulled the throttle, car stayed still and all 4 tyres went running down the track on their own.

You really do have to superglue proper race tyres.

These days I use proper tyre glue.  I still haven't got the hang of not getting it everywhere and not sticking myself to my wheels, my toolbox and my workbench, all at the same time.

[Supercoolnothing]

1 hour ago, Wooders28 said:

(Note, I only use the 8 for £1 from Poundland, top quality superglue maybe different story!)

Best tyre glue on the market. 

The only tyres I don't glue are the fronts on my 2wd buggies (the aqroshot being the only exception due to the size of the tyres and stresses that go along with them ). But 4wd's,  monsters and the cc01 all get glued. I also go around the bead of pre-mounts just to be 100% certain that they won't come off easily which is a hangover from my touring car racing days when you were issued with pre-mounted control tyres at the start of the event and sometimes they weren't stuck down all that well from the factory. 

Superglue also makes a great tyre tuning device. If you have too much grip from say the front end of the car you can put a thin coat on the tyre sidewall and it'll stop it from flexing as much and will reduce the grip as a result. 

[Mad Ax]

2 hours ago, Supercoolnothing said:

Superglue also makes a great tyre tuning device. If you have too much grip from say the front end of the car you can put a thin coat on the tyre sidewall and it'll stop it from flexing as much and will reduce the grip as a result. 

We always do that when running Sweeps on M chassis cars on carpet.  Cover the front outside wall and part of the surface of the tyre with glue and it stops it grip rolling.

[Mad Ax]

Another funny story from the history of tyre gluing...

I was away on one of the most epic weekends of my life: I'd just bought a dayvan, and decided to go away for a weekend by myself to try it out.  So I set off early one Saturday morning and arrived at Donington Park racing circuit to watch a day of GT racing, then camped over in the adjacent campsite.

The next day I drove down to Mallory Park race circuit and caught a whole day of motorcycle racing, then camped in a nearby country park, with fabulous views over the lakes.

The next morning I set off early and arrived in Birmingham for a day's bashing around at Radshape RC's old shop with their awesome indoor climbing mountain with my SCX10.  The staff were all doing a stocktake, so the shop was pretty much deserted.  Nice to have some peace and quiet, but a bit difficult when I wanted service.

I hadn't had a chance to properly run the SCX10, and in my usual fashion, I hadn't glued the tyres.  Now crawler tyres are pretty soft, so I wasn't long into my climbing attempt when I started having trouble, so off I went back to the pit area to get some glue from my toolbox.

Except I didn't have any, so I had to go find someone in the warehouse to sell me some tyre glue.

Back in my pit area, I realised I didn't have any snips to cut the lid off.

So back to the warehouse again - anyone got any snips I can borrow?  Sure enough, someone snipped the top off the bottle while I was holding it.

Back in the pits I discovered just how thin tyre glue really is.  It had wicked up through the nozzle and gone over my hands without me realising it.  I'd picked up a wheel before I'd noticed.

Then I really was, genuinely, stuck to the glue bottle, stuck to the tyre, and stuck to myself.

So there I was, feeling rather sheepish, wondering if I'd have to walk back to the warehouse for a third time to get someone to help my detach myself from all these parts.

I managed to get the glue bottle off fairly easily and even got the lid on it just to stop things getting worse.  The tyre peeled off next, although it left that horrible white mess all over the sidewall and black marks all over my skin.  In the end I only got my fingers apart by teasing them apart with a flat-ended screwdriver.

So be careful kids - superglue is dangerous stuff!

[Supercoolnothing]

@Mad Ax you're not the only person to have glued themselves to a tyre, I remember I was gluing up some tyres and I didn't realise that the tube was leaking. I ended up with the tyre, rim and tube stuck to my hands and without thinking about it I tried to free myself by grabbing the tyre that was stuck to my left hand with my right hand, my hands made contact and I ended up with them superglued together! I ended up having to shout to Mrs SCN to come and help me, got moaned at from her because she was trying to get our (at the time) 6 month old to sleep then when she finished laughing at the absurdity of my situation she agreed to help me. Thankfully she had a bottle of acetone based nail polish remover which eventually freed my hands from each other, the tube of glue and the tyre.

The very next day I ordered a big bottle of debonder which I keep open next to me whenever I work with superglue now. 

[Wooders28]

Ive yet to glue wheels without getting at least some on my fingers, just class it as part of the course now! 🙄😁

[Jonathon Gillham]

I also use the equivalent of poundland superglue and it works great, but only use it on racers not bashers.

The time I did it watching youtube tutorials etc it turned out rubbish and I have to reglue them every race meet, which doesnt work as its dirty. Then doing it trackside furiously between races it was perfect and I didn't glue anything that wasn't supposed to be glued.

Gluing the edge of the TRF102 carbon chassis was amdifferent story though, stuck to the car stand and my thumb  quietly got it apart with a knife before anyone noticed...

[markbt73]

I avoid gluing tires like the plague. It's by far my least favorite chore in this hobby. Whenever possible, I use multi-piece wheels, or do the rubber-band trick. If I do have to glue tires, it's only because a certain wheel/tire combo is perfect for a certain car, and nothing else will do.

[Kingfisher]

Acetone is your friend. It'll cut through the glue and unstick your fingers from each other, as well as everything you were holding. You can find it in your girlfriend/wife's medicine cabinet. She uses as finger nail polish remover.  Which reminds me, I owe my girlfriend a new bottle.

[Jason1145]

3 hours ago, markbt73 said:

I avoid gluing tires like the plague. It's by far my least favorite chore in this hobby. Whenever possible, I use multi-piece wheels, or do the rubber-band trick. If I do have to glue tires, it's only because a certain wheel/tire combo is perfect for a certain car, and nothing else will do.

I can't use the runny watery super glue, it ruins my tyres and runs onto sidewalls... I always use gel glue now, non runny but it takes longer than 10 seconds to dry.... a couple minutes before tacky. The Tamiya Tyre glue helper is a god send for holding the tyre down exposing the bead to glue.

Any of my wheel under brushless oomph need gluing, a non powered front wheel though... I leave un glued

[Jason1145]

7 hours ago, Supercoolnothing said:

@Mad Ax you're not the only person to have glued themselves to a tyre, I remember I was gluing up some tyres and I didn't realise that the tube was leaking. I ended up with the tyre, rim and tube stuck to my hands and without thinking about it I tried to free myself by grabbing the tyre that was stuck to my left hand with my right hand, my hands made contact and I ended up with them superglued together! I ended up having to shout to Mrs SCN to come and help me, got moaned at from her because she was trying to get our (at the time) 6 month old to sleep then when she finished laughing at the absurdity of my situation she agreed to help me. Thankfully she had a bottle of acetone based nail polish remover which eventually freed my hands from each other, the tube of glue and the tyre.

The very next day I ordered a big bottle of debonder which I keep open next to me whenever I work with superglue now. 

You couldn't even selfie that could you!