Portable/collapsable spray paint station?

[Ronnyhotdog]

So, I'm using the dining room table for my builds and painting is coming up and I'm certainly not going outside(it's cold and wet) so, I was thinking of a sort of collapsable structure that will contain the spray, like those things fake tan people take around to people's houses to spray humans with a dye... just repeat that to yourself... mental, isn't it? Anyway, something like that but smaller. Do you guys do indoor spraying? Some will have the luxury of a garage, no doubt, but apartment dwellers are not so fortunate. Any idea? A great big  BUSHY BEARD cardboard box, perhaps?

[WillyChang]

Yeah just the packing carton from a fridge or washer is great. Go bigboxstore and ask if they've got fresh cardboard from unpacking new floor stock. 

You don't need whole square box with 3 sides, sometimes just cut diagonally and a triangle bottom with 2 sides is enough.

You can rig up a fume collector with some plastic mesh (foldup multi layers of flyscreen or check local aquarium store for filter media) and rig up a frame (smaller cardboard box) and a small fan for vacuum eg 4-6" PC fans do ok.

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Have no comment on fake tan industry except When Alien Conquerors arrive hope they're vegetarian & EAT THOSE YUMMY CARROT-COLOURED ONES FIRST, please?  

Ironically in stark contrast to current "uproar" I hear about the filming of Aladdin live action movie where in London they're supposedly painting the actors brown. Umm yeah, THAT'S CALLED MAKEUP ppls & film/TV studios have giant whole guild of professionals to make actors look their part - it not same as "blackface" minstrel stageshows ok?

Plus y'know, Britons in midst of winter are mostly pasty white... not like usual residents of sunny Agrabah. 

[WillyChang]

If you really want to spend $... do you guys get

Popup sunshade things like these? 

(yeah I know, winter in UK)

Buy white & they can double as a lighttent for photos  

[Juggular]

I could spray in one room, and leave the windows open in that room.  But my wife has a sensitive nose.  I end up venting out the whole house afterward.  

If you do it often enough, you can either buy a spray booth....or you can make one yourself.

The guy below says ready-made ones are not strong enough, though.    

https://makezine.com/2015/08/08/build-an-easy-and-cheap-tabletop-spray-booth/

 

[Mad Ax]

I find the issue with rattle cans is they leave a lot of paint dust everywhere after painting.  Especially if your booth is small, the spray creates a blowback that blows the paint out of the booth.  It won't stick to anything it lands on because it'll be dry by then, but still makes hella mess everywhere.  Airbrushes aren't so bad.  If you're painting hard bodies with automotive paint it's really bad.

Also the fume smell can be a problem.  I never minded it when I lived alone but my wife won't have spray cans in the house.

I'll watch this as I'll be rebuilding my paint area soon.  I'm planning to build it into a large rigid cabinet that will winch up into the ceiling (we have a high-roof garage) so it's out of the way, and it's got to have a big internal area because I sometimes paint large things (1m rigid trailer, for example).  I'll be using a snail-shell extractor fan leftover from a previous hobby and will get hold of some replaceable filter material from somewhere.  The paint area will have to be lined with something replaceable too, because over time paint dust builds up into a nasty thick coating that can come free in the air blast and totally ruin a good paint job.

[novicelad]

I am quite lucky to have a garage/ workshop area for this, all I do it get an old cardboard box stick the body in and spray away. This seems to work well for me but then I have only sprayed one body so far! 

 

[Prescient]

Pop up tent or IKEA Vuku wardrobe @£10

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/wardrobes/free-standing-wardrobes/vuku-wardrobe-white-art-80331973/

The clothes rail makes hanging parts easy too.

[Jason1145]

26 minutes ago, Prescient said:

Pop up tent or IKEA Vuku wardrobe @£10

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/wardrobes/free-standing-wardrobes/vuku-wardrobe-white-art-80331973/

The clothes rail makes hanging parts easy too.

Lol what a waste of a perfectly useless wardrobe.... great idea though, as is the tent further up.

I spray rattle cans out in the garden tucked inside an opened cardboard box, yes it's cold in the UK but it only takes 15-20  seconds (be brave) and then whisk it indoors for some heated hairdryer treatment..... but even then the smell comes in with you and stinks that room out too

Agree the waft of blowback paint does get everywhere.. I often have red and blue grass around the cardbox box where it has escaped.

[topforcein]

1 hour ago, Jason1145 said:

Lol what a waste of a perfectly useless wardrobe.... great idea though, as is the tent further up.

I spray rattle cans out in the garden tucked inside an opened cardboard box, yes it's cold in the UK but it only takes 15-20  seconds (be brave) and then whisk it indoors for some heated hairdryer treatment..... but even then the smell comes in with you and stinks that room out too

Agree the waft of blowback paint does get everywhere.. I often have red and blue grass around the cardbox box where it has escaped.

i do have a shed to use and i even made a booth from cardboard packageing and got the welder at my last job to make me a rotating stand but i find if i spray in the shed esp on hard bodies i get a lot of paint inperfections  so i either step just out the back door and spray then straight back in to the kitchen and use the hairdryer yes the smell does come in the house but that is unavoidable. i used to spray in the kitchen but after the wife kept on at me after i finished with the over spray every where i gave up.

 

16 hours ago, Ronnyhotdog said:

So, I'm using the dining room table for my builds and painting is coming up and I'm certainly not going outside(it's cold and wet) so, I was thinking of a sort of collapsable structure that will contain the spray, like those things fake tan people take around to people's houses to spray humans with a dye... just repeat that to yourself... mental, isn't it? Anyway, something like that but smaller. Do you guys do indoor spraying? Some will have the luxury of a garage, no doubt, but apartment dwellers are not so fortunate. Any idea? A great big  BUSHY BEARD cardboard box, perhaps?

if you say you live in an appartment then why not hand out the window or balcony and spray or even in the hall before you go into your front door.

or you could buy a tumble dryer extractor kit and try that   

[WillyChang]

3 hours ago, Mad Ax said:

I find the issue with rattle cans is they leave a lot of paint dust everywhere after painting.  Especially if your booth is small, the spray creates a blowback that blows the paint out of the booth.  It won't stick to anything it lands on because it'll be dry by then, but still makes hella mess everywhere.  Airbrushes aren't so bad.  If you're painting hard bodies with automotive paint it's really bad.

Tell me about it  I painted an entire car indoors!

With rattlecans! Yeah 20 or so... 

Then did some loose panels in loungeroom...

The vacuum ran overtime for several months 

[Nitomor]

Lol, you're a far braver man than me!!

[WillyChang]

1 hour ago, Nitomor said:

Lol, you're a far braver man than me!!

Brave? You mean "stupid", yeah, that's more like it.  

Light coloured paint, dark coloured carpet too 

I'm blaming lack of ventilation from spraying in enclosed space.

Actually the paintdust from emptying the rattlecans probably only caused about 20% of the dust... the other 80% came from sanding it all down with the Random Orbital mouse hahaha

 

Even the DIY cardboard desktop booth with u-beaut ducted extraction isn't without mishaps.

Was painting 1/24 not 1:1, that's sensible size for indoor -check.

Was shooting Tamiya X acrylics thru Spraywork, no hazing solvents or aerosol propellants  -check.

Extractor works great, can see the red overspray sucked out and blown thru open window -check.

 

Whoops... forgot window has flymesh. Flymesh now has a big red spot... 

 

[Ronnyhotdog]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Costway-Airbrush-Spray-Filter-Extractor/dp/B06Y3SB4YL/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1515795202&sr=8-4&keywords=spray+booth

 

This looks great, but you I can't really gauge its size. The way it fans out, I could maybe add light card to extend the opening?

[ALEXKYRIAK]

Wow. Painting indoors...   If I painted indoors I would be forcibly removed from my house by the missus. Probably via an upstairs window.

She can smell the cans from the shed at the end of the garden....!

[WillyChang]

38 minutes ago, ALEXKYRIAK said:

Wow. Painting indoors...   If I painted indoors I would be forcibly removed from my house by the missus. Probably via an upstairs window.

She can smell the cans from the shed at the end of the garden....!

This missus affliction is proving to be one serious handicap... we seriously willingly agreed to all that grief for long as we may live!!?  can I plead insanity to the parole board!!? 

[Mad Ax]

On 1/12/2018 at 4:52 PM, WillyChang said:

Actually the paintdust from emptying the rattlecans probably only caused about 20% of the dust... the other 80% came from sanding it all down with the Random Orbital mouse hahaha

About a fortnight after having all new carpets fitted in my studio, my wife decided to sand back the plaster and paint on the hall and landing.  With a random orbital sander.  And she left the door to the studio open...

My black carpet was white, my laptop fan had stopped working, all my keyboards were full of dust, my clothes had to be taken outside and shaken, the cars on the shelves were thickly covered, the vacuum cleaner gave up after trying to clean the carpets and never worked properly since...  And I was half-way thru my MAN 6x4 build at the time, the chassis was out on the workbench and got covered.  Fortunately the shell was still in its protective bag but most of the parts were laid out in the open box and had to be cleaned before fitting.  I had to get at it all with a portable vacuum cleaner and a paint brush.  The filters on those cheap portable vacuums are terrible - they suck up the incoming dust and throw it right back out the vents.

Two years and two hobby rooms later and I'm still getting dust out of my shelfers, laptop and music equipment.

[WillyChang]

14 minutes ago, Mad Ax said:

The filters on those cheap portable vacuums are terrible - they suck up the incoming dust and throw it right back out the vents.

Most stock filters aren't that good... lucky for you plaster dust ain't flammable.

me & an accomplice had brainwave to DIY cutting MDF/bamboo/ply... and it turns out finely powdered cellulose IS flammable  supposedly as potent as vapourised petrol! So when we sucked it up with a household barrel... wood dust got through the filter, thru the motor where it ignited and exited out the tailpipe like a flamethrower  

Ran out bought a genuine ShopVac industrial grade. Modded it to HEPA standard by tripling its filters to both paper bag and foam then a fine nylon sock on top. Finished the wood job without further incidents; hoppedup ShopVac sounds like a jetengine at takeoff & I gotta wear earmuffs when it's sucking  

[max69vk]

Another cheap and cheerful option, just pop it on its side!...

https://www.in-excess.com/products/charles-rose-heavy-duty-garden-waste-cube-bag