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Can’t help noticing how much TC is being slagged off on Facebook. I just don’t get it. By far the most helpful and informed community out there as far as Tamiya and R.C. Is concerned. Wealth of knowledge and experience far superior to any other forums I see so much bad advice on other groups and forums. (A little knowledge is a dangerous thing) especially where Lipos are concerned. Why this perception? I have only ever seen politeness and helpfulness. As far as I’m concerned it’s the only community For me 😊.

It is good however to see more people encouraged in to the hobby.

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I'd encourage us to not start an us-vs-them discussion (us=whole community).  From my point of view we're not in competition with anyone.  Some people might prefer a Facebook group, others might prefer a forum.  It doesn't really matter.

There's good information to be found all over the web, and there are bad agents too.  Use with discretion.

*Shrugs shoulders*

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Definitely not a them vs us thing I think a lot of TC members use Facebook. I just don’t understand why people would slate a community like this where I have never witnessed any negativity at all only helpful people that go above and beyond. 

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i dont have that facebook and dont want it 

this forum is as good as it is beacuse most of the members like me are in there midlife type of age and so have been using tamiya or other brands for at least 20 years so have the knowledge. and unlike others dont ack like know it all with the attitude i do know it all kids that no one wants to deal with or help.this for me is the only site/forum i use and have been using for more than 10 years. 

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I also use a couple of Facebook Tamiya related groups. I have not spotted anything like your talking about on them.

FB has its place, I prefere a Forum for following topics and threads like builds- as stuff that was posted on FB a few days ago is hard to find again.

Its much easier to manage a FB group (as long as those in the group can remain civil......lol) than to set up and moderate a Forum. I have done both in the Trike world and its a pain in the *** when adults don't think before posting in both!!

I have found the TC Forum to be excellent. Helpful, knowledgeable, no smart assing or bad mouthing. So pats on the back to all the members who dispense their knowledge and encouragement to others.

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I agree I've only had good advice and banter on this forum! I'v been tamiya mad for about 40 years now and I still love taking advice off all who are kind enough to share it and I've save a pretty penny aswell directly beause of this forum:D I've never needed to use any other social media platforms (I also use the hot wheels UK forum for my other passion because it's again a good forum with good like minded people which is important for us in the UK because the supply of hot wheels over hear is very very poor at best:() so long may both these brilliant sites continue and anybody that feels the need to be negative it's there loss-_-!

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40 minutes ago, moffman said:

I agree I've only had good advice and banter on this forum! I'v been tamiya mad for about 40 years now and I still love taking advice off all who are kind enough to share it and I've save a pretty penny aswell directly beause of this forum:D I've never needed to use any other social media platforms (I also use the hot wheels UK forum for my other passion because it's again a good forum with good like minded people which is important for us in the UK because the supply of hot wheels over hear is very very poor at best:() so long may both these brilliant sites continue and anybody that feels the need to be negative it's there loss-_-!

Wait, this site saved you money? I partially blame this site for me having 11 cars and no money ;)

 

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42 minutes ago, Biz73 said:

Wait, this site saved you money? I partially blame this site for me having 11 cars and no money ;)

 

Yeah I know were ya coming from :lol: my last purchase was a bigwig I got because I was looking on this site at someone's creation! In that respect I'm skint:rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Biz73 said:

Wait, this site saved you money? I partially blame this site for me having 11 cars and no money ;)

 

LOL, BUT for this site you would only have been able to buy 8 for the same money and with less hop ups!!

Its also Ebays fault......

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As a member of TamiyaClub and a user of Facebook, I think all the criticism is a matter of both demographic and accessibility.

Almost anybody knows about and can use Facebook, but TamiyaClub is a little harder to find. That is not to say that anybody with a search engine handy cannot find it, but that the community is not as obvious as one on Facebook.

As such, "anybody" includes the people who rely on their local hobby shop to do all their RC car servicing, who look down on TamiyaClub users just because their cars might not do 70 mph out of the box and cannot be dropped from a 3-storey rooftop without something breaking (:P), and who can be totally comfortable saying it out loud because they either cannot accept that about TamiyaClub users' cars... or lack decorum :ph34r:

From the Facebook side, though, there are RC enthusiasts who cannot understand why anybody would need 10 shelf-queen Bigwigs, hoard 3-speed Bruisers, low-ball you on an Audi Quattro despite appearances, or care that that Porsche 934 is not being finished in the exact paint colour that Tamiya specified in period... Not to mention their astonishment at the prices being asked for new-in-box and/or display examples of kits from "knowledgeable individuals" and "collectors" that are fundamentally meant for fun.

For all that we love about the forum, it is not perfect, which is true for just about anything.

TamiyaClub has attracted a certain demographic; I get the feeling that the majority of members are middle-aged men from/in Europe. Conversely, Facebook users can be anybody, anywhere. This is not because TamiyaClub is restrictive on these things, but the focus and mission of TamiyaClub attracts the people who were young in the 1980s and remember the Frog, Hornet, Grasshopper, and the rest of the first 100 when they were new. A Facebook group/forum might not be so well-defined, and so brings in even more opinions. Add in the fact that there are way more Facebook accounts than TamiyaClub ones, the need to identify with specific groups within a larger one, the ease of use of ad-hoc arguments, and there will be incendiaries...

Consequently, the majority of TamiyaClub members are adults who know better than to sling mud over trivial things or revert too heavily to tribalism, which is harder to guarantee on a Facebook group. Certainly not all Facebook users are as uncouth as some might think, but the platform's open nature means that more people, with more opinions and attitudes, are on display, whereas TamiyaClub has a bit more of a specialized niche. That niche is filled with RC hobbyists who, for the most part, know how to behave.

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It seems to me that there are levels to internet communities, based on how deep/nerdy/pedantic you want your knowledge to run. Facebook groups (and Yahoo/Geocities type mailing lists before that) are a good place to get your feet wet, and dabble a bit. But when you want to dive deep to where the knowledge gets specific (and sometimes downright granular), you find a site like this, and you spend six months lurking before you dare sign up and ask a question.

But when you do, you find a group of pedantic nerds who are just as friendly and helpful as can be, who want you to succeed, and try to help you avoid the basic beginner's mistakes.

By contrast, I have no love at all for the huge heavily-sponsored forums, which have so little wheat and so much chaff that it's hardly worth bothering. Especially brand-owned forums (like that other "T" brand), where braggadocio and conformity are the name of the game.

I had not heard of any badmouthing of TC anywhere on Facebook, but if there is any, that's a shame. This is a great community, and an incredible resource; but no, it's not for everyone.

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I did read a listing on ebay a few weeks ago for an original hotshot and in his/her listing was a little rant about tamiyaclub members I couldn't really understand what his point was thought :wacko: something to do with the original bumpers and people on hear are a bit stuck up bla bla:rolleyes:

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"Tamiya? pff, I just got this Kyosho MP9 TKI3, man."  ...(engine stays reved up, but he doesn't know what "needles" are)...

"Why don't you try that screw?"  (it idles down)...  By tomorrow he'll forget about the middle-aged man. He'll think he figured it out all by himself.  And he puts down TC, because he's got the "superior" MP9.   

I could be the older man... but just as easily, I could have been the younger man also.  When we are young, we think we know stuff.  Arrogance comes from ignorance.  As we grow older, we start to realize that there are always more to learn than what's already been learned.  As Grastens said, Tamiya is easy to disrespect, because most of Tamiya cars are not competitive.  It's young people's license to be hot-headed. They will learn that life is easier with manners.  Of course, there are middle-aged men at the track who are still throwing fists at each other.  As long as I don't get punched, I don't care what they say about TC.  I'm rather glad to learn from people with manners.  As I heard from a good movie, "manners maketh a man."   

 

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I read a post on Facebook very recently and the replies were really slagging this forum off, as a member for many years, i'm not sure why tbh as I can't say i've ever seen anything negative on here, if you need help, create a thread and more than likely you will get your answer. 

I can remember trying to direct someone off a Facebook group here a year or so ago as they wanted to help with something and they were getting no real assistance on the group, for some reason they just couldn't work out how to access the forum and post :blink: very odd. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ian_Gsi16V said:

I read a post on Facebook very recently and the replies were really slagging this forum off, as a member for many years, i'm not sure why tbh as I can't say i've ever seen anything negative on here, if you need help, create a thread and more than likely you will get your answer. 

I can remember trying to direct someone off a Facebook group here a year or so ago as they wanted to help with something and they were getting no real assistance on the group, for some reason they just couldn't work out how to access the forum and post :blink: very odd. 

 

At least it not just in my head then.

weird just makes no sense

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1 minute ago, lentner3 said:

At least it not just in my head then.

weird just makes no sense

No, its definitely a thing. Very odd but I would say I see it across all hobby forums I use. 

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For the record,  I had to search up what slagging meant...  :huh:        I am from the US and not very culturally diverse,  but that is one of the reasons I love this forum!

I honestly don't think a lot of the "younger" crowd actually know what a forum is.  I was chatting with a co-worker the other day about the new UTV he is buying.  He kept asking me questions I didn't know the answer too,  so I told to join a forum.  Couple of days later he told me he joined a couple of forums.  But they were just "groups" on FB,  not a real forum such as TC.  Come to find out,  he didn't know such a thing existed!?  I am 37,  and he is not even 10 years younger than me.  But on the other hand he thinks I am crazy because I am not on FB.

Hi,  my name is Bob,  and I have a problem...  TamiyaClub is my favorite forum,  period.  Everyone here is helpful and knowledgeable and seem like they would be really cool to hang out with in person.  There is a vast amount of knowledge here,  and the best part is that the knowledge is very broad.  There doesn't seem to be a brand pushed on new members when talking about upgrades.  (Maybe the HW 1060...)  And I have seen all the different platforms used to go in so many different directions with builds it's crazy.

I am also a member at the "other T brand" forum.  It seems like if you don't buy Castle,  or don't put Trenchers on your off-roader,  or modify your rig in the same way everyone else is,  you get ignored.  I am only keeping my 2 T****** trucks for the kids to learn on and for my to experiment on,  then transfer that knowledge to future Tamiyas!

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I am only on a couple of other forums (nz racer one which is pretty much club info and rctech) but only use the others for specific questions, not to browse and read stuff out of interest. Also a fb marketplace but that is just buy/sell. The only time I have seen TC referenced is when members are being directed here by others for some specialist knowledge. The attitude seems to be that TC has a lot of knowledge but isn't for everyone, rather than disparaging in any way.

The only negative thing I have seen on here was jumped on so quick by other members that I doubt that member will be back, and it was a great example of the culture of this group, there is no such thing as a stupid question etc 

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I think alot of people on here, are also on facebook.

The few negative comments, ive seen, if I remember right, were followed up with , "I was banned " and " i left because" ,so I wouldn't say it was slagged off alot, you can't please everyone! 

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Petty comments on Facebook?  Surely not...  :mellow:

Here you don't find an in-crowd talking down to others, know-it-alls telling others what to do, pedants arguing over trivial points, and the idea that the fastest/biggest/most expensive is best.  It's not like this place is lacking for information or helpful members, so there's no loss from what is probably a tiny number of people leaving or not joining at all because they can't fit in with a laid back and positive forum.

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I've been a Tamiya fan for years and just became a member of TC a couple of weeks ago.  It is by far one of the best RC forums on the web.  I have spent hours reading through the old posts, builds, etc.  I do not have Facebook and unfortunately all of the good RC forums I used to frequent have been dead for a few years now due to FB.  I love how active TC is and how nice and helpful the members seem to be.  The problem with joining a "forum" on FB is that there is hardly any organization and finding an old post is next to impossible after a while.  I like the layout of a forum.  I'm a younger guy but I just don't get the FB thing, I much prefer a genuine forum like TC.  As for people bashing one or the other there's really no reason for that, everyone has their own preference and that's just fine.

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12 hours ago, Ronnyhotdog said:

Pro tip: don't use facebook. Thank me later.:D

I agree!  I quite facebook a year ago and haven't looked back since.  I love these forums here at T.C.  Everyone is really mellow and there's no attitudes, and the amount of info here is amazing. 

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I have Facebook but stay well away from groups. Have joined a few over the years. Left them all pretty quickly. Egos galore. 

Much prefer forums, not to say there’s not bad ones of them mind(!). Have felt really welcome here. People have been happy to help both in topic or pm. I certainly can’t see why anyone might be disgruntled with the place. 

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