Tt02b upgrades

[Crosh1983!]

Hi. I am new to this forum and just getting back into the rc world after having a bear hawk in the late 90's. Just a couple of questions.  I have a tt02b plasma edge.

Can you change the tamiya battery connectors to a dean's one with the tble 02 esc? 

Is there any links for an upgrade metal dog bones and cups for the front and rear in the UK? 

Thank you for any advice and sorry if I have put this in the wrong part of the forum

[ThunderDragonCy]

ÈHi! Welcome. I switched to a deans on a tble-02s. Its a matter kf clipping the tamiya plug off and soldering a deans back in. I got the local hardware shop to do mine as i wasn't confident with my soldering at the time.

For the metal parts, search ebay for the part numbers and there are 2 or 3 really good uk sellers. The driveshafts are 9805551. The axle ends are 50823. You need the metal diff outdrives too but i am not sure of the numbers here. If you have the cash then putting universal/cv shafts in the front frees up the steering. The Yeah Racing for the DF03 fit and are good value. The Tamiya DF02 53791 are the genuine tamiya items you need. Have a search for tt02b in The Builds. There will be loads of information in there on hop ups.

[Crosh1983!]

Hi thank you for the reply Il have a look at them. I have got a few hop ups. Dfo2 metal gears. Alloy front and rear knuckles. Alloy propshaft. Alloy front and rear lower arm sets. Alloy c hubs.alloy or or mount.tblm 15t motor. Frp front and rear damper stay.turnbuckles all round. 23t pinion.64t spur gear.metal race bearings.abisma oil dampers. So basically just need the metal dog bones and cups. Is there any other hop ups I could get for my tt02b? Thank you in advance

[ThunderDragonCy]

Nice! Check out @ALEXKYRIAK tt02b ms build. It is the nicest tt02b i have seen!

 

[Crosh1983!]

Wow. Now that is a nice motor. I will have to do some more overtime and get buying. Thanks again

 

Paul

[Jonathon Gillham]

It sounds like a great project, pretty much all the important bits upgraded.

Those DF02 diffs are bulletproof but heavy and affect performance significantly on the stock motor, I've got 2 of these and have run them together, one with standard diff and one DF02. Probably 20% slower. But its essential with a decent motor upgrade.

You say 15T motor,  is that a 380 brushless in a 540 can or do you mean 15.5T? Or is it brushed? You will want to keep an eye on temperatures with that gearing and diff, unless its a 15.5T brushless. I was running the standard 70T spur and 19T pinion and DF02 diff  with a 13.5T brushless and it went really well, ran cool and decent runtimes. I susoect that gearing will be too high for a brushed 15T but dont have muxh/any experiemce with brushed motors.

Oh and good choice on the body, the Plasma Edge is my favourite of the TT02B bodies.

[Crosh1983!]

Hi. Thanks for the reply. My motor is the 540 tblm 15t brushless motor. I am looking to upgrade the motor and esc to get some more power out of it. I' just unsure which motor/ esc  to upgrade to there' that many out there. As I am new to the new technology these days I'm relying on YouTube until I signed up to this forum. The plasma edge is my first 4wd and up to now I'm loving it. 

[ThunderDragonCy]

The tble-02s will easily run a good 13.5t from any other brand. Tamiya motors are quite conservatively powered so it would be a fair step in performance. The tble-02 won't run a 10.5t motor well in my experience so if you want some serious power (10.5t is around 4000kv if you are looking at those ratings) then you need to consider a new esc as well. Search on Electrical forum. There are lots of suggestions.

[Crosh1983!]

Hi. That's good to know thank you.  Which 13t motor would you reccomend please and would I just use the same 23t pinnionand 64t spur with this 13t brushless motor?? Also my battery is a nimh 2400. Would uprading that to a 3500 give better performance? I don't want to go down the Lipo route. Thanks 

[gizard]

40 minutes ago, ThunderDragonCy said:

The tble-02s will easily run a good 13.5t from any other brand. Tamiya motors are quite conservatively powered so it would be a fair step in performance. The tble-02 won't run a 10.5t motor well in my experience so if you want some serious power (10.5t is around 4000kv if you are looking at those ratings) then you need to consider a new esc as well. Search on Electrical forum. There are lots of suggestions.

I concur with this - I have a TBLE-02s with the Fan and running a TBLM-02 10.5 turn motor in a TT02S (so small wheels, but high gearing) and the ESC does stop due to overheating protection every now and again.

[gizard]

1 minute ago, Crosh1983! said:

Hi. That's good to know thank you.  Which 13t motor would you reccomend please and would I just use the same 23t pinnionand 64t spur with this 13t brushless motor?? Also my battery is a nimh 2400. Would uprading that to a 3500 give better performance? I don't want to go down the Lipo route. Thanks 

I also have a TT02B with a TBLE-02s (No fan seems to be required) and a Speed Passion 13.5t motor and this works very well. I also have a Blitzer Beetle with TBLE-02s and Speed Passion 13.5 and it's great and finally a DT-03T with again the same setup.

[gizard]

8 minutes ago, gizard said:

I also have a TT02B with a TBLE-02s (No fan seems to be required) and a Speed Passion 13.5t motor and this works very well. I also have a Blitzer Beetle with TBLE-02s and Speed Passion 13.5 and it's great and finally a DT-03T with again the same setup.

I should also mention that I am running 2s lipos with them all as well so 7.4v fine too. 

[ThunderDragonCy]

I run a speed passion 13.5 too. They are getting a little thin on the ground but they are great. Mine works on the tble-02s even with an 8.4v nimh hump pack so will be great. No idea on gearing though. Bigger mAh nimh batteries do seem to give a bit more punch. I use overlander 3300 and 3800 and they are great. If you can work out a way to mod the battery strap to fit an 8.4v pack and it would fit under the body it gives a great uplift in performance.

[Crosh1983!]

Ok that' great thank you for your advice. Il get some more bits ordered. 

[Jonathon Gillham]

You could consider a cheapish combo like this

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/trackstar-roar-approved-1-10th-stock-class-brushless-esc-and-motor-combo-13-5t.html?___store=en_us

Or something from GoolRC, or any number of other brands out there. The TBLE-02S is conservative too and you csn get programmable ESC which gives a big boost to performance. If you go down this route then lipo would be best to get the most out of it, NiMH will ppwer it but not as fast.

As for gearing try to work out the FDR then match the motor to the gearing. It should be Spur / Pinion x internal ratio. The internal ratio is fixed and should be in the manual

[ALEXKYRIAK]

11 hours ago, Crosh1983! said:

Can you change the tamiya battery connectors to a dean's one with the tble 02 esc? 

Welcome to the forum, Crosh. You can also get adapters in various flavours. See this example:

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/etronix-female-tamiya-to-male-deans-adaptor/rc-car-products/39232

[Crosh1983!]

Ok thank you all for your advice. I will have a look now.Thanks again

[Crosh1983!]

I have just been looking at a new brushless motor and esc. Can someone please advise me on a goolrc motor? What is a 4 pole. Im just use to them saying 9t or 13t on the side. 

[Jonathon Gillham]

4 pole are generally for 1/8th scale, they produce a lot more torque. 1/10th scale generally use 2 pole motors. You wont need 4 pole in a TT02B, probably be fine if you went that way though.

There are a few topics on GoolRC, many people really rate them, some have had problems with them. Personally i havent used them but would give one a go if I was in the market for a basher setup.

[Crosh1983!]

Hi. Thanks for the reply. Thanks for the advice I will have a search for them on the forum. I currently have a tblm 15t 540 motor but I'm after a bit more speed out of my tt02b. Thanks again paul

[Jonathon Gillham]

2 hours ago, Crosh1983! said:

Hi. Thanks for the reply. Thanks for the advice I will have a search for them on the forum. I currently have a tblm 15t 540 motor but I'm after a bit more speed out of my tt02b. Thanks again paul

Is that part 54612? If so then its 2300kv so you could pick up a motor on its own, say around 3100kv which should work with the TBLE-02S ESC and give a decent speed boost. Also consider your gearing, I found the 17T pinion with a 3040kv motor disappointing, but the 19T pinion really livened it up. There seems to be a general consensus that a 13.5T motor is a good match with the TT02B chassis but of course its all subjective. My Trackstar 13.5T is 3040kv.

BTW kv is useful because kv x volts gives rpm.

what batteries are you using and what is your budget and objective? 

[Crosh1983!]

Hi. Yes that is the motor I have got installed. I have currently got a 64t spur gear and a 25t pinion fitted. I got a few different sized pinions but as I'm quite new to the rc world I'm just guessing. I' using a 7.2 v 2400 battery at the minute. By what I have heard Lipo need to be looked after and wouldn't want to risk charging it in unattended. My budget depends on how much I can get away with with out the missus finding out haha. Thanks

[Jonathon Gillham]

8 hours ago, Crosh1983! said:

Hi. Yes that is the motor I have got installed. I have currently got a 64t spur gear and a 25t pinion fitted. I got a few different sized pinions but as I'm quite new to the rc world I'm just guessing. I' using a 7.2 v 2400 battery at the minute. By what I have heard Lipo need to be looked after and wouldn't want to risk charging it in unattended. My budget depends on how much I can get away with with out the missus finding out haha. Thanks

If you are using NiMH then you won't realise the full benefits of a programmable ESC, they can't deliver the power the motor will be asking for. Lipo are more hassle but you will need to go that way for more speed. A 7 cell NiMH will be a good comprimise if you want to stay NiMH, but it still wont be able to supply enough if you turn boost and turbo right up.

You could try dropping a pinion size or 2 in the current setup to see if that helps. I run 28/73 in my Lazer with a 17.5T motor, which gives an FDR of 5.5. You probably want about the same, maybe a little higher like 5.8. Its too early in the morning for me to do maths, but check your manual for the internal ratio and work from there. I can check my manual for a TT02B if you can't find it.

[Crosh1983!]

Hi thanks for the reply. I will try and do a bit more research and possibly go the Lipo route.when you mean 28/73 is that a pinion 29 and a spur 73? Sorry to be thick. Also another question please. My motor tblm has 3 wires which connect to my esc with 3 wires. They are way too long once connected and haven' really got the space for all that excess wire. Could I cut the esc and motor wires shorter like solder bear metal together and put heat shrink over the joint. Would this be ok to do? It just would look tidyier and allow a bit of free space in there. Thanks in advance

[Crosh1983!]

Just now, Crosh1983! said:

Hi thanks for the reply. I will try and do a bit more research and possibly go the Lipo route.when you mean 28/73 is that a pinion 29 and a spur 73? Sorry to be thick. Also another question please. My motor tblm has 3 wires which connect to my esc with 3 wires. They are way too long once connected and haven' really got the space for all that excess wire. Could I cut the esc and motor wires shorter like solder bear metal together and put heat shrink over the joint. Would this be ok to do? It just would look tidyier and allow a bit of free space in there. Thanks in advance

Sorry 28 pinnion