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2 hours ago, markbt73 said:

The story I remember about the Maxxum is that it was meant to compete against 4WD buggies. Since the front wheels were driven, it was not allowed to compete in 2WD, but because there was only one driven axle, it was supposed to have less drag than a 4WD buggy, and therefore be able to be geared higher (remember, efficiency was king in the days of 1200-1700 mAh batteries; you geared the car to run out of battery 15 seconds after the end of the race). It was absolutely meant to be a race car, and was marketed as such.

Well , the Maxxum, very special car. Here is the link to an outstanding and well researched article on the dirt-burners website, written by TomEG, who is also member of TC afaik.
The article is like a time machine for me, it takes me back to those times when rc was on top.

http://vintage.dirt-burners.com/2018/03/28/1987-ifmar-parma-1-10-electric-off-road-world-championships-romsey-england/


Its about the ´87 worlds at Romsey, scroll down to the chapter about the front wheel drive cars or read it completely and go back in time.
It tells the story about the Kyosho engineer Akira Kogawa, he was developing FWD cars for Kyosho the same time as he designed the Optima Mid. A german contender, Wolfgang Petermann, with a diy FWD Cat inspired him to the Maxxum.
The story is validated by the English/german edition of the 1989 Kyosho catalog, the same story is featured there,unfortunately (for english speaking people) only in the german text.

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Imo the Maxxum is more than a sideline in Kyoshos Portfolio, it is somewhat of a predecessor of the Lazer, especially the front suspension.Here are some pics side by side with the Lazer.

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On 9/4/2018 at 3:38 PM, a.w.k. said:

It tells the story about the Kyosho engineer Akira Kogawa, he was developing FWD cars for Kyosho the same time as he designed the Optima Mid. A german contender, Wolfgang Petermann, with a diy FWD Cat inspired him to the Maxxum.

Imo the Maxxum is more than a sideline in Kyoshos Portfolio.

Quite. I don't think the Maxxum was designed to race against 4WD buggies at all, because even with the limited battery technology available it would be too compromised to compete against pukka 4WD machines. Whatever you gain in drivetrain efficiency (and it won't be that much over a decent belt-drive system, which Kyosho had already perfected) you will lose in excessive wheelspin off the line, terrible acceleration and horrible handling.

What happened was that Mr Petermann rocked up to the Romsey Worlds with his home-brewed Cat FF and the organisers saw it and threw a fit, as there was no rule about FWD cars as nobody had thought anyone would be daft enough to actually try it. So they shoved it in with the 4WD cars, because they didn't want it doing well in 2WD and upsetting all of their competing major manufacturers. It came 113th out of 120-odd in 4WD, so the idea that Kogawa saw it it and designed the Maxxum with that class in mind is unlikely. It is more likely that he was already tinkering with an FWD design to compete in 2WD, where Kyosho were already strong. But Petermann jumped in early, forced IFMAR's hand and got them banned. Given that Kyosho had probably already spent a fair amount on R&D by that point, they were probably past the point of no return and had to continue to production in 1988 in order to make some of their money back.

The interesting question here is not what the Maxxum was designed for, but what would have happened if Petermann hadn't tried racing with an FWD car in 1987? If Kyosho had unexpectedly arrived at the next 2WD Worlds with a factory team not just bristling with serious Ultimas, but also with a dozen factory-specced FWD Maxxums, fully sorted after a proper development programme, do you reckon IFMAR would then have forced one of their major manufacturers to race their innovative but unprecedented 2WD cars in 4WD because no one had written any rules about FWD? I doubt it.

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On 9/7/2018 at 3:29 AM, Rb4276 said:

To think tower blew out the maxxum for $99 and couldnt give it away

If only the internet was more widely used back then, the exchange was almost 2:1!! 😳

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I were considering 3 Kyosho model I would like to buy, maybe 4.

dont know what would be the best long term, Id rather have all of these :)

1. Kyosho Spada Nissan March Cup 4wd nitro pan car 1:10/12

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2. Kyosho Beetle 2014 2wd 1:10

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3. Kyosho Mini z MR03ve Brushless 1:27

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4.Kyosho Mini z MB010ve Brushless Buggy 1:27

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well my comments aboutbthis modela are, the spada, in a Nissan Micra/March version, it seems cute, since it looks like a pan car chassis, so interesting to drive and I like M chassis. Nitro is not new to me.

 

Beetle, a cheaper variation of sand sorcher, I need such for sand and dirt bashing

 

Kyosho mini z would be on the long run, quite new to them, always wanted one since 01 chassis model. Now that there is a brushless version and a gyro for it, suspension looks like a miniature f103 setup. Would love to collect the mini z bodies and make a home track, same as for the mini Z buggy, fun for at home. At our club it would be possible to make a small track for them.

 

all these are price range $250-$299

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I have a few kyosho's and really like all of them allot, the models i have in no particular order

Fo-xx GP, Mad force rcx, Mad Crusher GP, Mad force VE, Blizzard SR, Blizzard FR, Blizzard EV, and just recently a Beetle 2014! I hope to get a infeno gt2 car and maybe truggy too

I plan to get the tamiya sand scortcher to display beside and run with the beetle.

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Late to this party, but have been a Kyosho guy all my life. Just make the call on 2wd or 4wd and then whatever looks best to your eye.

I just got the re-re Javelin and absolutely love it. Threw a 13.5t and 2s in it and couldn't be happier. Might even put a 9t in her. Few recent posts here: https://www.instagram.com/tamiya1976/

Also am restoring my original Turbo Optima Mid. I adore 4WD buggies and these to me look better than anything.

 

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Even later to this thread,,:-)   but the elusive Kyosho Nostalgic Series kits have to be noted along with all the great buggies and cars mentioned before!

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meh... Scorpion/Beetle ran rings around SRBs, Ultima & Optima were Kyosho mainstays, but far from INTERESTING compared to others in their catalogue. (Oh, their catalogues... smaller size than Tamiya's LP covers but K's was proper squarebound & their photography art was miles ahead)

Kyoshos that I call iconic, in no particular order:-

CityRider... motorcycle! Likely worlds first. Grandpa to HangingOnRider.

Burns & Inferno... Optima might've won a few trophies in 4WD but INFERNO torched the lot in 1/8th off-road. Ruled the roost for over a decade running, IFMAR could've just shovelled the trophys to Kyosho in a wheelbarrow. 

Blizzard, tracked snow cat. Electric or gas. Nice!

Garden Offroaders... K made some nice models meant for tootling on a nicely manicured lawn in several different scales. T made Bruiser/Hilux, K made a 1/9th Terrano/Pajero... T had clunky manual 3spd gearbox, K made theirs CCVT automatic. :P plasticky maybe, but K also did electric AND gas versions.

Fantom, Plazma... K's craziness included trying 4WD in 1/12 onroad pan cars, although I think others like AYK or ABC tried too. GP 1/8th onroad eventually went 4WD exclusively.

SuperScale/SuperTen... some very nice models, gas & electric but the most iconic was the SuperEight Porsche 959 (yeah Inferno size chassis, full body, nice wheels, twin exhaust!)... until...

K made a 1/4 scale Rally Car - full suspension, whippersnipper motor. Topped it with a Lancia Delta Integrale shell... it was huge... size of a gokart... cost a bomb I'm sure (not sure if it came built or a kit - K did a lot of ARTR back then), plus you'd want to spend up big on the bestest radio of the time like the Futaba Magnum PCM1024 to keep it in control. The shell was unpainted - how many PS cans would you need to cover a bathtub?!

Mr Wheelie!! Hugely popular to everywhere that could get K back then, but today ppl only remember M38 Wild Willy. M38 is an off-roader with iffy handling... K's Mr Wheelie (series, there were several shells) had topfueler stance, ran like a pancar (gokart handling!) AND did wheelies on the track. :) 

Talking of GoKart... yep K made a 1/5th? With GP nitro engine, articulated driver figure.

MiniZ... yep they started motorising plastic scale model shells... grew into MiniZ 1/14th, still going strong today. Not as crazy as T's Mini4WDs but Zs are RC.

plus who could forget

OPTION HOUSE!! Mercedes AMG took decades to copy Kyosho... ;) factory's own Inhouse option parts brand. Sell you fancier hopup bits to bolt on your already-pricey-ride. Make parts in fancier colours that showoff yours is different to the standard to justify your extra spend.

 

 

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On 12/15/2018 at 10:46 PM, WillyChang said:

K made a 1/4 scale Rally Car - full suspension, whippersnipper motor. Topped it with a Lancia Delta Integrale shell... it was huge... size of a gokart... cost a bomb I'm sure (not sure if it came built or a kit - K did a lot of ARTR back then), plus you'd want to spend up big on the bestest radio of the time like the Futaba Magnum PCM1024 to keep it in control. The shell was unpainted - how many PS cans would you need to cover a bathtub?!

Yesss, the 1/5 scale Lancia Delta, gas engine and sound, bought it new in 1992. Needed 5 cans to paint that thing, but masking was easy because of its scale.PICTd0968.thumb.JPG.65b7ae893d06eaa1a0b42c3e78e1704b.JPGPICTd0958.thumb.JPG.53f6ec627e66b2bcd49d63369af80d74.JPG

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On 11/18/2018 at 2:52 AM, JNSD1 said:

Also am restoring my original Turbo Optima Mid. I adore 4WD buggies and these to me look better than anything.

Mids were the best looking buggies of all. Especially the LWB 'Custom' shell.

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On 12/15/2018 at 9:46 PM, WillyChang said:

meh... Scorpion/Beetle ran rings around SRBs, Ultima & Optima were Kyosho mainstays, but far from INTERESTING compared to others in their catalogue. (Oh, their catalogues... smaller size than Tamiya's LP covers but K's was proper squarebound & their photography art was miles ahead)

Kyoshos that I call iconic, in no particular order:-

CityRider... motorcycle! Likely worlds first. Grandpa to HangingOnRider.

Burns & Inferno... Optima might've won a few trophies in 4WD but INFERNO torched the lot in 1/8th off-road. Ruled the roost for over a decade running, IFMAR could've just shovelled the trophys to Kyosho in a wheelbarrow. 

Blizzard, tracked snow cat. Electric or gas. Nice!

Garden Offroaders... K made some nice models meant for tootling on a nicely manicured lawn in several different scales. T made Bruiser/Hilux, K made a 1/9th Terrano/Pajero... T had clunky manual 3spd gearbox, K made theirs CCVT automatic. :P plasticky maybe, but K also did electric AND gas versions.

Fantom, Plazma... K's craziness included trying 4WD in 1/12 onroad pan cars, although I think others like AYK or ABC tried too. GP 1/8th onroad eventually went 4WD exclusively.

SuperScale/SuperTen... some very nice models, gas & electric but the most iconic was the SuperEight Porsche 959 (yeah Inferno size chassis, full body, nice wheels, twin exhaust!)... until...

K made a 1/4 scale Rally Car - full suspension, whippersnipper motor. Topped it with a Lancia Delta Integrale shell... it was huge... size of a gokart... cost a bomb I'm sure (not sure if it came built or a kit - K did a lot of ARTR back then), plus you'd want to spend up big on the bestest radio of the time like the Futaba Magnum PCM1024 to keep it in control. The shell was unpainted - how many PS cans would you need to cover a bathtub?!

Mr Wheelie!! Hugely popular to everywhere that could get K back then, but today ppl only remember M38 Wild Willy. M38 is an off-roader with iffy handling... K's Mr Wheelie (series, there were several shells) had topfueler stance, ran like a pancar (gokart handling!) AND did wheelies on the track. :) 

Talking of GoKart... yep K made a 1/5th? With GP nitro engine, articulated driver figure.

MiniZ... yep they started motorising plastic scale model shells... grew into MiniZ 1/14th, still going strong today. Not as crazy as T's Mini4WDs but Zs are RC.

plus who could forget

OPTION HOUSE!! Mercedes AMG took decades to copy Kyosho... ;) factory's own Inhouse option parts brand. Sell you fancier hopup bits to bolt on your already-pricey-ride. Make parts in fancier colours that showoff yours is different to the standard to justify your extra spend.

And he didn't even have to mention the Maxxum...

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On 12/27/2018 at 11:17 AM, a.w.k. said:

Yesss, the 1/5 scale Lancia Delta, gas engine and sound, bought it new in 1992. Needed 5 cans to paint that thing, but masking was easy because of its scale.PICTd0968.thumb.JPG.65b7ae893d06eaa1a0b42c3e78e1704b.JPGPICTd0958.thumb.JPG.53f6ec627e66b2bcd49d63369af80d74.JPG

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I recall that around that time there was another company making 1:4 scale gas-powered RC cars which came exclusively with Renault 21 saloon bodyshells. One year whe  I was racing at the Wings and Wheels festival at North Weald they had a group of them racing, although they only had enough of them to make up one heat.

There was also a 2WD 1:4 scale gas powered off-roader called a Jac-Rabbit which my LMS had an example of in their window.

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On 9/6/2018 at 7:29 PM, Rb4276 said:

To think tower blew out the maxxum for $99 and couldnt give it away

They also did this with the Kyosho Triumph. :blink:

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Surprised the RV series wasn't mentioned. The closest thing to the Bruiser anyone had gotten around that time. The 4Runner and Pathfinder body's are decent and stance/Tire/Combo is spot on IMO 

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23 hours ago, magnumb said:

Surprised the RV series wasn't mentioned.

Didn't know there was such a serise, when where they released?

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56 minutes ago, Wooders28 said:

Didn't know there was such a serise, when where they released?

Around 91-92

They were pricey, but CCVT transmission was very interesting on the nitro models. Allowed for reverse and placed the nitro in it's sweet spot most of time

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17 hours ago, magnumb said:

Around 91-92

They were pricey, but CCVT transmission was very interesting on the nitro models. Allowed for reverse and placed the nitro in it's sweet spot most of time

If I remember correctly the CCVT-version was replaced by a simplified and cheaper nitro version later, whereas the electric version stayed the same. It was available with Nissan Terrano (1st gen. 2-door) body, Toyota Forerunner and Mitsubishi Pajero of the same type and generation as the Tamiya CC-01 Pajero. Despite being 1/9 scale, the RV-series had lower ground clearance than the CC-01 and three diffs. Again, if I remember correctly, the front and mid diff could quite easily be locked, whereas it was tricky to lock the rear diff. And once you succeeded locking it, even modest load would caused the bevel gears to loosen from the wheel shafts. I never owned one myself, but a good friend of mine had several and spent a lot of time improving them,but the CC-01 remained better. 

The CCVT was however a very interesting feature and it would last quite long too if the linkage was adjusted correctly and the CCVT taken good care of. The most important thing was to NEVER open the CCVT. The manual strictly instructed not to open the CCVT and we always told customers not to do it, clearly stating that it would ruin the CCVT. Once the customers had problems with the drivetrain. regardless what actually caused the problem, they would still open the CCVT and it was trash. There were/are a few specialists out there who could/can successfully service the CCVT and my friend is one of them, but most owners failed badly. 

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15 hours ago, magnumb said:

Around 91-92

Would have been the same time F1 were playing about with CVT, never really took off in F1 either.

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22 hours ago, Mokei Kagaku said:

If I remember correctly the CCVT-version was replaced by a simplified and cheaper nitro version later, whereas the electric version stayed the same. It was available with Nissan Terrano (1st gen. 2-door) body, Toyota Forerunner and Mitsubishi Pajero of the same type and generation as the Tamiya CC-01 Pajero. Despite being 1/9 scale, the RV-series had lower ground clearance than the CC-01 and three diffs. Again, if I remember correctly, the front and mid diff could quite easily be locked, whereas it was tricky to lock the rear diff. And once you succeeded locking it, even modest load would caused the bevel gears to loosen from the wheel shafts. I never owned one myself, but a good friend of mine had several and spent a lot of time improving them,but the CC-01 remained better. 

The CCVT was however a very interesting feature and it would last quite long too if the linkage was adjusted correctly and the CCVT taken good care of. The most important thing was to NEVER open the CCVT. The manual strictly instructed not to open the CCVT and we always told customers not to do it, clearly stating that it would ruin the CCVT. Once the customers had problems with the drivetrain. regardless what actually caused the problem, they would still open the CCVT and it was trash. There were/are a few specialists out there who could/can successfully service the CCVT and my friend is one of them, but most owners failed badly. 

Like the chassis layout a bit better than the CC-01 and front suspension seems to have a lot of throw. I think the heft of the 1/9 might also give it more realistic charactor. 

I was reading about the CCVT and I think the reason they didn't want you to mess with it is the case of made of brittle plastic and could crack if you removed the screws. You can however buy a case off shapeways if that happens. 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/BMQNBXXX3/top-half-of-kyosho-nitro-1-9-scale-ccvt-gearbox-rv

 

 

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10 hours ago, magnumb said:

Like the chassis layout a bit better than the CC-01 and front suspension seems to have a lot of throw. I think the heft of the 1/9 might also give it more realistic charactor.

To some degree yes, and The Terrano and the 4-Runner were certainliy very well proportioned and detailed, but the bodies not as well molded as Tamiya bodies and the chrome quality was rather poor as typical for Kyosho at that time (still?). Also, the Pajero was rather poorly proportioned, especially in the rear, so in a direct comparison of the Tamiya and Kyosho Pajero, I think most will agree that the Tamiya Pajero clearly looks more realistic.

Also, whereas the RV-chassis looks very nice with more authentic dimensions and details of especially the rear axle housing, links and front suspension than what is the case on the CC-01, the RV is a bit overengineered.  So maintenance is more fiddly, but if that's positive or negative is a matter of taste.

10 hours ago, magnumb said:

I was reading about the CCVT and I think the reason they didn't want you to mess with it is the case of made of brittle plastic and could crack if you removed the screws. You can however buy a case off shapeways if that happens.

 

Yes, that's part of the problem, but it's by far not that simple. The absolutely correct (re-)assembly is crucial, and that was not only about getting the parts in the right places.  My friend dealt with CCVT-customers for years and fact is that virtually all were unable to cope with the task. Also, I doubt very much that a new case from Shapeways will be of much help. Even if the CAD for it is perfect, the (commercial) 3D-printing technology simply hasn't advanced far enough yet to ensure that dimensions, rigidity and mechanical strength is adequate for parts with requirements like the CCVT case. A CCVT-enthusiast made (makes?) a CNC'ed aluminium case though, and if it's as well made as it looks, it's probably the better choice.

 

(As for 3D-printing, a colleague of mine is working in 3D-printing research in the automotive industry and she also thinks that commercially available 3D-printing is still in its early infancy, but a lot of potential will be realized in the coming years.  Some of it is already reality in highcost application, like a steering rack housing for Porsche, the 2nd gen Panamera, if I remember correctly. It's 3D-printed, but as technology hasn't evolved far enough yet, the "raw" 3D-printed parts has to be machined afterwards.)

 

 

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7 hours ago, Mokei Kagaku said:

To some degree yes, and The Terrano and the 4-Runner were certainliy very well proportioned and detailed, but the bodies not as well molded as Tamiya bodies and the chrome quality was rather poor as typical for Kyosho at that time (still?). Also, the Pajero was rather poorly proportioned, especially in the rear, so in a direct comparison of the Tamiya and Kyosho Pajero, I think most will agree that the Tamiya Pajero clearly looks more realistic.

Also, whereas the RV-chassis looks very nice with more authentic dimensions and details of especially the rear axle housing, links and front suspension than what is the case on the CC-01, the RV is a bit overengineered.  So maintenance is more fiddly, but if that's positive or negative is a matter of taste.

 

Yes, that's part of the problem, but it's by far not that simple. The absolutely correct (re-)assembly is crucial, and that was not only about getting the parts in the right places.  My friend dealt with CCVT-customers for years and fact is that virtually all were unable to cope with the task. Also, I doubt very much that a new case from Shapeways will be of much help. Even if the CAD for it is perfect, the (commercial) 3D-printing technology simply hasn't advanced far enough yet to ensure that dimensions, rigidity and mechanical strength is adequate for parts with requirements like the CCVT case. A CCVT-enthusiast made (makes?) a CNC'ed aluminium case though, and if it's as well made as it looks, it's probably the better choice.

 

(As for 3D-printing, a colleague of mine is working in 3D-printing research in the automotive industry and she also thinks that commercially available 3D-printing is still in its early infancy, but a lot of potential will be realized in the coming years.  Some of it is already reality in highcost application, like a steering rack housing for Porsche, the 2nd gen Panamera, if I remember correctly. It's 3D-printed, but as technology hasn't evolved far enough yet, the "raw" 3D-printed parts has to be machined afterwards.)

 

 

Been using Nylon printed parts for a lot of my crawlers and have to say a lot of the parts are more than adequate and very little sanding to get a smooth surface. I've seen someone on YT using that case for CCVT and it was working just fine, for how long who knows.

I have a kit from this company below and all their kits use 3d printed axles and hub carrier along with other 3d printed parts. Very solid and i haven't run into any issues.

I think as long as your not using 3d printed parts for a dedicated basher you'll be just fine. 

http://gcmracing.ca/viewcategory.php?groupid=59

This guy built some 3d printed suspension parts for several of his runners and put then on a race track and no real issues. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, magnumb said:

Been using Nylon printed parts for a lot of my crawlers and have to say a lot of the parts are more than adequate and very little sanding to get a smooth surface. I've seen someone on YT using that case for CCVT and it was working just fine, for how long who knows.

I have a kit from this company below and all their kits use 3d printed axles and hub carrier along with other 3d printed parts. Very solid and i haven't run into any issues.

I think as long as your not using 3d printed parts for a dedicated basher you'll be just fine. 

http://gcmracing.ca/viewcategory.php?groupid=59

This guy built some 3d printed suspension parts for several of his runners and put then on a race track and no real issues. 

That's all fne, but for the parts you mention, the tolerances don't need to be tight at all. It's a bit "apples and oranges" to compare. For the CCVT, tight tolerances are crucial. the same goes for rigidity. But it's hard to convey how critical this is, but as soon as actual experience is made with the CCVT, it unfortunately becomes apparent in a rather unpleasant way.

Also, though my opinion is that (commercially available) 3D-printing is in its early infancy and hasn't reached an acceptable maturity level yet, I welcome the techology very much and look forward to enjoy all the possibilites 3D-printing will offer in a surely not too distant future.

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I guess it's better than having a cracked case and if it works it works:)

Tolerances are tight on the axles halfs from GCM and the material has surprised me for sure...I've taken apart the axles several times now and what really surprised me was how tight i could crank of fasteners. Sure the material doesn't look as pretty as my axles from RCWD, Axial or HPI, but it's held up just as well and the tolerances are more than adequate and better than some of the cast alum pieces i've delt with

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