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While I always try to check my post spellings and punctuation are correct before I post initially, from time to time I like to read back [in build threads particularly] and re-jig a fews things - either to make them read more clearly, or to add bold text or extra/alternative pictures and captions etc.

 

Recently when I've tried to do to this on both some older posts, and ones just made a day or so previously, I've had a message pop up saying "this post cannot no longer be edited because too much time has passed or it may have been moved" - can admin advise why this might happen?

 

Interestingly, in some instances I have been able to go back and edit posts made months ago, but conversely not been able to edit one made a day or two ago... and yet if I cut a chunk of the [recent] post I want to edit, save the shortened version and then post the 2nd half as a new post, I'm able to go back and edit both as I wish it would seem...

Does it have something to do with the number of characters and/or photos in each post? or the number of likes a post has? or if someone has quoted that particular post for example? Or is it just a glitch?!

Any advise is welcome, thank you!

Jenny x

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@JennyMo - There's no settings/options for limiting thread/post length or the number of images per post that I can find - there was years ago, but that was limited to 10 pictures and was back in the days of 56k modems

 

Next time you have this, could you leave the post unedited and post a link to it here please.

I can't check any of mine as I can edit posts because of admin rights, but there might be something Chris can check if we can use a 'problem' post to test

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Was this to do with someone having a paddy and deleting all their old messages and threads before leaving?

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I also occasionally encounter this and the timeframe does seem inconsistent.

 

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3 hours ago, Nobbi1977 said:

Was this to do with someone having a paddy and deleting all their old messages and threads before leaving?

No - we took a vote on restricting the editing timeframe but it was a tied vote and it wasn't implemented.

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16 hours ago, JennyMo said:

I've had a message pop up saying "this post cannot no longer be edited because too much time has passed or it may have been moved" - can admin advise why this might happen?

This happens to me quite frequently and as Juggular says, it seems to be more prone to happen when trying to edit lengthy posts. In my case, it usually happens when I re-read, change and try to save posts seconds or few minutes after first posting.

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I just logged in as madd_monster (a mate's account, he doesn't use the forum any more) as there's no admin rights on that login and edited this post from 2003. 

so it's not a time constraint

Next time it happens please post a link to the thread and screenshots of any messages 

 

 

 

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Thanks Twinset - as I say, it's actually been happening with more recent posts with me - even ones I've just made (like Mokei Kagaku has also experienced), where it appears to be something to do with the length - since if I chop the post in half and then post part 2 separately, it seems to cure the issue and I can edit both sections...

However, I can't do that with posts that have had subsequent replies (by myself or others) as they would be come disjointed of course.

I'll see if I can trigger an example...

Jenny x

 

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Ok, here we go - this thread/post:

...and I tried to replace the first line with some bold text centred (as a title), and got this message:

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And the post just freezes saying 'saving' - and you have to refresh the window (in the menu bar for example) where it then reverts to the previously saved/unedited example.

Interestingly, I played around with some options - I can cut some text (and save the new post no problem), I can also add some additional text and/or make existing text bold, no problem:

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...Similarly I can add another photo to that post no problem.

The issues I seem to have are changing the format of some existing text - eg. centring it and/or changing the size of the font.

Any ideas?

Jenny x

 

 

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Edit 2

Edit 3

Edit 4+

 

Edit 2

Edit 3

Edit 4

 

Edit 2

Edit 3

Edit 4

 

Edit 2

Edit 3

Edit 4

 

 

OK, just a quick update for now...

 

As you may recall, earlier this year we left Louis Willy trying to work out if he (or any other driver) might be able to climb into the cab - so in that regard, I thought I might have a go at something that I'd seen on other chassis-cab crawlers and truggies, and cut the doors down to reveal more of the interior. 

Although I was aware that the centre mounted gearbox and motor really precludes including a proper scale interior like I'd managed with Lisa's Defender, I hoped the extra exterior detail coupled with him effectively sitting on top of the bare transmission assembly would ultimately add to the overall industrial/mechanical look of this vehicle?ded

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photo. I decided to retain the lower panel of each door, to give structural rigidity - not least for the shell mounting holes - and [for now at least] retain some of the weathered paintwork.

Since I'd already narrowed the cab by 40mm, I'd concluded that an 'extreme' vehicle like this would most likely have a central driving position anyway (and being 4WS on ultra heavy-duty axles, factored if it were a real 1:1 vehicle the steering would almost certainly have to be hydraulic too - so that's my excuse for the axle mounted servos... ;o), which in turn meant that Willy would actually be able to grab onto the internal roll-cage in a realistic pose:

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photo. modified bucket seat from a Wild Willy 2 shell.

 

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photo. from this angle you can't tell he ain't got no legs below the knees!

As you can see it's been quite the squeeze to get the Wild Willy 2 seat and driver in the space between the gearbox and the forward bulkhead/battery, and it has meant he's had to lose his boots (for now at least) - but I think the overall effect is still pretty realistic?

note. ultimately having him hanging onto the roll-cage means the driver figure will remain attached to the shell even when it's removed for access/servicing - making things very easy in that regard, especially as currently the shell is only attached with four screws (two along each sill).

You may also notice I've incorporated a dashboard too (to help hide the top of the battery) - using a cut-down Wild Willy 2 part and some styrene:

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...and fabricated some deep/wide door sills using styrene which mate up inside with the inner wheel-arches - and will ultimately be covered in [genuine] aluminium tread-plate to keep things even more scale and authentic.

 

The other thing I did which is not really obvious in these pictures is to remount the body a couple of mm lower, using some commercially available body mounts from eBay (designed to mate a Trailfinder shell to an SCX10 chassis) which turned out to be a very similar shape to my 2nd generation styrene mock-ups I'd been using previously. Fortunately I can confirm that the tyres still clear the front arches and rear cage rails, even on full articulation and lock - Result!

I had also decided to modify the rear cage (sorry, I forgot to take photos of the actual process - but basically, using a Stanley knife, heat-gun and Dr. Dremel) so that there is less overhang at the rear - while retaining the full length of the alloy deck panels that come as part of the Vaterra rear cage kit.

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Obviously there is still a lot of finishing to do - fabricating some door jams, plus I have some padded roll-cage tubes I want to incorporate as horizontal bars halfway up the door apertures... Then I need to properly secure Willy in the cab and touch in all the paintwork; and also finalise my plan for a rear fuel tank to fill in the space between the cage deck and the chassis rails. Ultimately, I also intend to add a few scale accessories to the interior and rear deck of the vehicle, although keeping in mind that it's primary function is as an actual crawler, everything will need to remain well tucked in and properly secured in the event of a roll-over.

However, for the next few weeks I'm actually going to be busy moving house - so for the time being, Desmond has been boxed up for transit - turns out he's now exactly 12x18 inches!

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All these latest mods have re-inspired me to get going on this particular project again, so stand-by for more just as soon as I can...

Jenny x

 

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The post above was me - I managed to edit the top couple of paragraphs three times, then got the same message;

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It's obviously nothing to do with the age of the post - I'll run it by Chris and see if he can find out, I've never seen that message before

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3 hours ago, TWINSET said:

The post above was me - I managed to edit the top couple of paragraphs three times, then got the same message;

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It's obviously nothing to do with the age of the post - I'll run it by Chris and see if he can find out, I've never seen that message before

Thanks... yes, as I say, I seem able to make things bold, italic, and even change/add new text - I just can't centre (rather than left justify) or change the size of the font.

Thanks for looking into it for me...

Jenny x

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I got 'blocked' trying to change the colour of the text, never tried justification

Did you get blocked on the first edit or after a few?

 

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Ok, had a play and could edit the copied post loads of times, but not to include coloured text or to change justification

This post was typed in coloured text, central to see if it was possible to create thread in the first place

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Second test, black and to the left

Editing to centre is ok, edited back to include this line

Editing top line back to centre ok

Editing top line to colour ok

Editing 2nd line to centre ok

Edit lines 3, 4, 5 to italic

 

 

 

 

 

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Ok, it's definitely the length of the post that affects the editing
The post above was edited 7 or 8 times with no problem at all but, as soon as I pasted the long post into it, the editing jammed up

I can't see anything in the settings to indicate it's a deliberate limitation or flood control, will have to look into it further.

 

I just tried to edit (as admin) the Madd_Monster's post copying Jenny's and got the same message;

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I think it could be a forum glitch rather than a setting, it's the first time I've seen an option limited to admin.

 

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On 12/1/2018 at 1:17 AM, TWINSET said:

I got 'blocked' trying to change the colour of the text, never tried justification

Did you get blocked on the first edit or after a few?

 

 

Yes, first edit...

At first I thought it was because I was trying to change too many things at once - but as you say, even doing each edit individually comes up with the same message.

Interesting you've found/feel it's due to the length of the post - as I say, with more recent posts I've been able to chop them (that edited/shorter version always saves no problem) and save the second part as a new post, then both can be edited.

for info. I haven't tried chopping and saving an earlier post, then trying to paste the cut text back in, as I won't want that to block me from reinstating the original text (for chronological reasons obviously).

Jenny x

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Yeah, don't edit anything that might need changing back until this is resolved - It's the first time I've come across an admin option that doesn't work (namely editing a post) so it must be something wrong with the forum software as opposed to any rights or limits imposed on non-mod members.

 

 

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OK, will stand-by ;o)

I noticed that yesterday I replied on a thread, and went to add a ps paragraph and got the same message, even though the initial post was just short - however it did originally include a youtube link and another URL in it too - so perhaps that has some effect?

So I ended up posting my ps as a separate post instead.

Strange things indeed!

Jx

 

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Hmmmm... this issue seems to have cropped up again this afternoon, this time in this thread/post here:

I went back in to change a word, and it says it's no longer able to be edited?

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Jenny x

 

EDIT. Again, it seems the only edit it will allow is for me to select a section and cut a chunk of it out - then it will allow me to save the shortened version, and also make subsequent edits to that shorter version too. I then reposted the chopped section as a subsequent post.

 

 

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There appears to be a hard limit to the size of a post in the forum/server software. Once you hit that limit its really hit or miss what you are allowed to do, which is why there is variations in the problem (technically the code that is being stored for the post behind the scenes, can be quite different to how it may look visually, so it might appear you are doing two similar things and one works and one doesn't but the 'code' produced can be quite different in length.)

Sorry can't see this being fixed in the short term, so the only work around is breaking long posts into smaller ones I'm afraid. Got people looking at it, so if anything changes will let you know.

Chris

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Just reviving this old thread -  looks like I'm having trouble again... I did the other day while editing my Mega-Bug build thread posts, and sure enough, having trouble again even with this really short post - I'm getting the same message: 'this post can no longer be edited due to being moved or too much time has passed'... even though I tried to edit it almost instantly.

Hope you can help Twinset!

Jenny x

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I've just had exactly this issue, so it's still ongoing....

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