Sand Scorcher Tyre Choice.

[Grumpy pants]

So just for fun, my rere Scorcher is being given a through make over by Turnip which I’m delighted about and then I need to choose wheels and tyres for it.

I have in stock the following for it-

1.New Black Wannabe Hornet Rims.

2. Vintage Rough Rider Tyre and Wheel set with JR’s.

3. A Pair New Rough Rider Tyres (ReRe)

4. A Full Set of Rere Sand Scorcher Runner Wheels & Tyres.

5. A Full Set of Vintage Super Champ Wheels and Tyres.

6. A Full Set of Vintage Sand Scorcher Wheels and Tyres.

I’d like your opinion of the best set for show and the best set to run.

Everything else will be sold off, any combo I will keep.

Thoughts please? 

[Lee76]

Do you have any pictures of the options? The names don’t mean much at the moment but I’m just starting my scorcher build and will be in the same boat. Possibly in the market for parts. Will yours be driving or display?

[Grumpy pants]

I’ll post pictures later on today Lee76.

I’m thinking one set of wheels to run and one set for display. 

 

 

[Fuijo]

My choice would be option 2 for the shelf with the lettering painted, and option 4 for running on sand or loose dirt.

A set of rere Buggy Champ wheels and tyres for running on harder surfaces would be better than option 4, but personally I wouldn't run a Scorcher on hard surfaces

for fear of damage.

[Lee76]

I like the ones on this site showroom toykid, Trying hard to think of something original but I’m really drawn to his paint job... Can anyone identify those tyre options?

[Lee76]

https://pin.it/jqtqu6wunijtpl

hope this works...

 

[Lee76]

Right I’ve googled most of those, unfortunately I agree with @Fuijo... option 2, which probably means I won’t be seeing those for sale anytime soon...

[Re-Bugged]

If it's any help I run my rereSS on original wheels and tyres that are painted silver/black spokes with red on the rim. the tyres I find have worked great on sand and other loose surfaces. I have a Buggy Champ body to for the same chassis and put Buggy Champ wheels and tyres with alloy wheel covers on it when its on the shelf.

So I'd consider just a second set of the same wheels with Alloy covers for the shelf if I were you.

[Grumpy pants]

I’m currently thinking black Wannabe wheels with Super Champ back tyres and Buggy Champ front tyres for display as they are all NIP.

Then use the Rere Sand Scorchers for runners. 

That leaves Rough Rider Set to sell, 2 Vintage S.S front tyres and 4 S.S rear wheels. 

[KEV THE REV]

I've had Frog / Hornet etc spikes and JR's on my Scorcher runner for off road and it looks great and performs well , for tarmac etc the 915's and JR's would be best . For shelf the 915's and JR's look great lettered up and with alu wheel covers in the 5 star design

[Grumpy pants]

Tyre and wheel combo options. 

[Grumpy pants]

Here is what the car used to look like.

[Grumpy pants]

This is one of my favourite S.S’s-not owned by me though.

 

 

[Lee76]

Yeah, I can see why you like this one, I was thinking of going chrome with the hubs, but black is pretty striking too.

[Nobbi1977]

The second picture looks lower on the frame. Maybe stance is as important as tyres.

The tiny front wheels look a little lost to me but my style is not everyone’s taste. 

I think, like nameing a child, you will only be sure once you have it in your hands

[Juggular]

Sometimes, the Hornet tires... look just fine on Sand Scorcher, if a V6 engine hangs out in the back...  

The Rough Rider tires look okay too...

 

[Grumpy pants]

4 hours ago, Nobbi1977 said:

The second picture looks lower on the frame. Maybe stance is as important as tyres.

The tiny front wheels look a little lost to me but my style is not everyone’s taste. 

I think, like nameing a child, you will only be sure once you have it in your hands

Interestingly it has standard SS front tyres and wheels but much shorter shocks have been fitted to lower the stance. 

This model is only for show from memory and not fitted with a servo or ESC. 

I think you are right as well, when I get the car back I’ll try some different combos before settling on the right look for my taste. 

[jonboy1]

are you going full box art body on this? I think the black rims look a little heavy for such a bright vibrant body scheme, but would look amazing on a slightly darker body.

For me, Sand scorcher re-re, with cut paddles and chrome rims. 

[Grumpy pants]

18 hours ago, jonboy1 said:

are you going full box art body on this? I think the black rims look a little heavy for such a bright vibrant body scheme, but would look amazing on a slightly darker body.

For me, Sand scorcher re-re, with cut paddles and chrome rims. 

Both my shells are box art, one to run and one for display. 

The black wheels are a stark contrast which does make the car look more aggressive I think, but the grey RR wheels are a better colour for the blue and white theme. 

Cut paddles and chrome is a great idea, but I am going to need to work with what I’ve bought for now as the Tamiya piggy bank is  empty 👎

[jonboy1]

12 hours ago, Grumpy pants said:

Both my shells are box art, one to run and one for display. 

The black wheels are a stark contrast which does make the car look more aggressive I think, but the grey RR wheels are a better colour for the blue and white theme. 

Cut paddles and chrome is a great idea, but I am going to need to work with what I’ve bought for now as the Tamiya piggy bank is  empty

Yup, I would agree, the grey will go really nicely with the box art colours.

Have you thought about trying chrome paint on the rims? Alclad Chrome can look really good

[Yalson]

On 12/1/2018 at 7:29 PM, Juggular said:

Sometimes, the Hornet tires... look just fine on Sand Scorcher, if a V6 engine hangs out in the back...  

 

 

*Puts on pedant glasses.* If that is a Porsche engine, I think you'll find it is actually a Flat 6, rather than a V6. *Removes pedant glasses.*

[Juggular]

3 hours ago, Yalson said:

*Puts on pedant glasses.* If that is a Porsche engine, I think you'll find it is actually a Flat 6, rather than a V6. *Removes pedant glasses.*

 

lol... yes, it is flat 6!  Do they ever call it boxer 6? 

Is it just me?  It seems like if it's 4, they call it "boxer." 

If it's 6, it seems like they are more likely to call it "flat 6."  

[Fabia130vRS]

Well, from what I have heard, in a mechanical dialect its is a boxer neither way. It might be that in English, the frase flat is added. But from all croatian or german car tv shows. They all call it a boxer (porsche and subaru mostly) , only on british or american shows I have heard people calling it a flat.. Still a boxer is not a V6, he caught you Jug.

I catch myself writing something about cars, and then not believing myself that it is true. And I look it up to double check.

[JennyMo]

fwiw. I tend to agree with jonboy1 - if you're going for box-art paint, then traditional Sand Scorcher paddles and smoothies (original or re-re) on the 5-spoke wheels, but try painting the wheels with chrome or aluminium spray paint perhaps? - that would be the most obvious for display at least...

However, personally I prefer the Sand Scorcher on the 1.7 wheels [ie. Rough Rider rims and tyres] - and again, you could paint them, or as I did get some of ToyKid's 5-lug wheel covers for them:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/4QCR9LPZP/sr40013-5-lug-wheel-covers-set-of-4?optionId=19505900&li=marketplace

note. I still thought the JR (or re-re version) front tyres were rather small in diameter, so ended up narrowing a set of 915s for the front too.

 

Ultimately though, from a personal point of view - I still find the wheels & tyres on the Sand Scorcher a touch small (although they fit pretty well within the stock arches of course), and for a custom/scale build, I'd consider fitting Tamiya 1:14 truck tyres (1.7 rim size, but around 82mm diameter) on the front with the Knight Customs covers), but go for some 1.9 white 8-spokes on the back, complete with similar diameter BFGoodrich MT tyres for example?

Looking forward to seeing whatever you decide!

Jenny x

 

[Yalson]

On 12/6/2018 at 2:30 AM, Juggular said:

lol... yes, it is flat 6!  Do they ever call it boxer 6? 

Is it just me?  It seems like if it's 4, they call it "boxer." 

If it's 6, it seems like they are more likely to call it "flat 6." 

Yes, it could be considered a flat 6 or a boxer 6, if I understand correctly. Boxer is a catch-all term for a horizontally opposed engine, so flat twins, 4s, 6s, 8s, 10s and 12s could all be considered boxer engines. However, there is a difference between a 'flat' engine and a V-engine with a 180 degree V-angle. I don't entirely understand the difference, but I gather it relates to the way the connecting rods are attached to the crank. The Porsche flat 6 is, I believe, a true flat 6 which in its most famous form in the 935, 936, 956/962 and 959/961 can trace its history back to the 911 and ultimately the air-cooled flat 4 from the Beetle. On the other hand, the flat 12 from the Ferrari 312T series of F1 cars was actually a V12 in with a V angle of 180 degrees, because of Enzo Ferrari's insistence that their F1 cars should only be powered by V12s.