evssv69 378 Posted January 5, 2019 as sum of u may remember I scored me a bnib hpi vorza day before xmas eve.....so.....long story short I paid him £230 all in, goods n services......he did ask for gift but I said no chance.....on 23rd dec.......sweet....tracking number provided on paypal...which I didn't see until the 2nd........so I wait........an wait......mean while me mum...it was being sent to her house as she would b in....received a recorded delivery card she had to sign for on the 28th dec....didt thk nothing of it.......as it jus said happy Christmas mike........so I wait.....no vorza....he was ignoring my wat apps.....until I said I`d get my money bak from pay pal...then he said ``it went 48 so u have in a day or 2.......ok.......so I wait.......then I chk paypal for tracking info on the 2nd jan........its been signed for...Whats that all about then?!......on 28th......ok...so I assum its been robbed.... i call paypal.....they said its been signed for so not much they can do contact royal mail....so call royal mail.....to make complaint.......said they take up to 72hrs to look into it.....ok........then it hit me this morning...the 3rd.. what has happened..... ..so I look for that card and envelope......cant find it....ho no!! has she already binned it.....and I seen the recycling men this moring......nooooo!.....so I thk well that's that aint it......she comes home I ask if that card is still here.......btw she don't know I`ve bought said vorza.......``yeah its round the side of house in the rubbish....``....thk god for that.....so I chk the signed for number on it....and it matches the one he put on paypal.......so he took my £230 quid and sent me a Christmas card.. ....but I rang paypal and explaned what had happened and she said ok....hes got 10 days to respond....if not u will b refunded on 11th day..... ...so thk god I paid goods n services... ...and thk god the card/envelope was still here......I had previously bought a brand new losi 5 cage off him all good ...no issses......so didn't thk nothing when we did the vorza deal.......anyone know of him? 20190104_193200 by evssv, on Flickr 20190104_193232 by evssv, on Flickr 20190104_201110 by evssv, on Flickr his email is kieranjamesbelfor@gmail.com I don't do face book or I`d b looking now and posting he`s a scammer.....he`s gota b known on facebook .as he had a bnib xmaxx....vorza...scottfinaly engines.....5ive bits........the 5 cage I got off him was spot on .. ..as he said it was.....so I know he sales/buys 1/5th bits.........the ebay name I bought his cage through was 7350kelly and that paypal address was linked to Kelly Gunstone hollyandteeny@yahoo.co.uk so he`s using different paypal accounts..i paid for the cage on nov 14th....and its got 1 neg feedback...which I didnt see ... ..and hes in Peterborough by look of it 20190105_144117 by evssv, on Flickr 20190105_144206 by evssv, on Flickr 20190105_144340 by evssv, on Flickr bit long winded but it needs to b known so no one else gets scammed like I jus did... pics he sent me of the vorza IMG-20181223-WA0005 by evssv, on Flickr IMG-20181223-WA0004 by evssv, on Flickr I was told today of a Kieran Crawford who was scamming people a while bak....so not sure if its the same person... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee76 638 Posted January 6, 2019 There should be much harsher penalties for these types of thieves to drive this behaviour out of our society.. just curious, can you do a google reverse image search and see if the pictures were someone else’s? I can’t do it on the I pad. Of course it’s not always going to be a scammer that uses other peoples pictures but might be a warning sign. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 6, 2019 I'm not sure how to do that tbh dude...............and yeah totally agree with u.......but it aint gonna stop anytime unfourtanly ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee76 638 Posted January 6, 2019 No, sadly not. Perhaps someone else with a PC will read this and check them out. I need to install google chrome on the ipad to do it but don’t fancy it right now , since it’s supposed to be pants.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 6, 2019 may b sumone will.......I know it can b done..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 7, 2019 soo.....typed his number into Google and found hes quite the seller... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=07494474222&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjan9_o2NrfAhUiTxUIHc-TBV0Q_AUICSgA&biw=1265&bih=661&dpr=1 and going by the name Kieran j....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wooders28 4703 Posted January 7, 2019 Glad you got your money back ! (You have got the money back?) I had similar with a seller on ebay, they sent it to a different address (guessing someone they know), but because it had been delivered and signed for, eBay and PayPal sided with the seller!!! 🤬 It wasn't alot of money, so wasn't worth my time and effort perusing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, Wooders28 said: Glad you got your money back ! (You have got the money back?) I had similar with a seller on ebay, they sent it to a different address (guessing someone they know), but because it had been delivered and signed for, eBay and PayPal sided with the seller!!! 🤬 It wasn't alot of money, so wasn't worth my time and effort perusing. I haven't yet....gota wait the 11 days first....and it seems this could well the b very same kieran Crawford who was scamming people with dodgy car parts a few months on various car forums... as he was banned off of msuk a few months ago for scamming also .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 7, 2019 heres the msuk link from last nov so quite recent imo.... https://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/forums/topic/231734-6ft4-crawler-can-i-have-my-money-back-please/?tab=comments#comment-2445802 ..and now I`m 100% this k.james is really k.crawford......the simulairtys r too close to b anyone else imo.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEV THE REV 2304 Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 9:21 AM, Wooders28 said: I had similar with a seller on ebay, they sent it to a different address If an ebay seller sends to a different address from your registered ebay / paypal address then they are liable , unless you specifically request for it to be sent to a different address , which must be logged in prior to shipping to cover the buyer and the seller . Major drag there with the Vorza , sounds like it's been done many times before. When an item is sent by PF 48 or RM 2/3 day delivery , it is weighed / sized up and price of shipping is calculated from that info , which would not match an envelope , the RM / PF info would back this up . Good luck with the refund my friend . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wooders28 4703 Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, KEV THE REV said: If an ebay seller sends to a different address from your registered ebay / paypal address then they are liable The eBay seller insisted they posted it, and gave a tracking number, royal mail wouldn't give us any more information ,other than it was not sent to our sorting office (so not our address) , eBay sided with the seller. It was for a wee (pardon the pun🙄) stool, to enable our daughter to get on the loo herself, by the time we played tennis with emails, waited X amount of days etc, she could get up anyway!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evssv69 378 Posted January 14, 2019 got me 230quid bak.... 20190114_205122 by evssv, on Flickr thk u paypal!! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites