which will be the next great tamiya collectable?

[togfisherman]

Any ideas on what current tamiya model is going to be the next great collectors piece? I have some money to spend/invest and it may as well be in something i enjoy (just incase is bombs). I have considered buying the tamiya tlt-1, the volks tourag,kyosho outlander, wild dagger and the chevy s-10 racing truck. Any input would be appreciated.

thanks

mc

[gozone]

I would say it will be the TXT-1 with it´s innovative design, a big appeal to a lot of different users of all ages.

Cheers.

Michael

[Shodog]

I would say the 1/14 scale semi's

[togfisherman]

wow the tlt-1 is more then i have to spend, what about the tlt-1 or the tlt-1 max climber?

or the twin detonator?

mc

[Odd-N]

Any car with "TRF" in the name...[]

[jocktheglide]

the TXT once that gets discontinued watch everyone try to snag that up after tamiya announces, "discontinued" from their website. price probably go for like 600 or so for that kit. my guess.........

[Floyd]

I could see the Gravel Hound and Rising Storm being collectable once they get discountinued ..

[Lunch ROCS]

I think that any of the mini series from the M-01 to the M-03. Especially the monte carlo version. I know that there are tons of them about now but the same could be said for the Sand scorcher and look how collectable that is now!!

[ChrisB]

Personally I think trying to pick the future collectables is a bit of a non starter. I think you can guess the ones that will be *popular* if discontinued.... but thats not the same as becoming collectable.

A lot of the really sought after vintage Tamiyas today have become what they are because in their time they didn't sell amazingly well (maybe too expensive at the time for example). This means they have become quite rare now and hence by the laws of supply and demand command higher prices.

In the future I don't think there are many modern Tamiyas that will become that collectable, especially as Tamiya have now discovered the art of re-release [].

I would choose one of the hard bodied kits like the Hummer as a future collectable. Lots of fine detail, good chassis and things like oil shocks as standard. If I wanted something that would maybe become collectable I would be looking at rarity rather than the more popular models.... as I say though buying with the aim of making money or having something collectable in a few years time is probably setting yourself up for disappointment long term - buy them to build and use them.

Chris

[jocktheglide]

quote:

Originally posted by ChrisB

A lot of the really sought after vintage Tamiyas today have become what they are because in their time they didn't sell amazingly well (maybe too expensive at the time for example). This means they have become quite rare now and hence by the laws of supply and demand command higher prices.

In the future I don't think there are many modern Tamiyas that will become that collectable, especially as Tamiya have now discovered the art of re-release [

].

I would choose one of the hard bodied kits like the Hummer as a future collectable. Lots of fine detail, good chassis and things like oil shocks as standard. If I wanted something that would maybe become collectable I would be looking at rarity rather than the more popular models.... as I say though buying with the aim of making money or having something collectable in a few years time is probably setting yourself up for disappointment long term - buy them to build and use them.

Chris

---

id="quote">id="quote">

yeah so true man hard to say whats collectable, but in the end the one kits that show such high scale realism will never go wrong with.

[Gixer Jay]

In the Tamiya line I'd say the TXT for sure.

In the other factory lines I'd say the Traxxas T-Maxx NIB and Associated TC3 NIB are going to be VERY collectable in the future. Those would make a very nice investment.

[stulec52]

whatever is the most popular car of today will most probably become the most sought after in 20 years.

Something Subabru then by that logic?@?!%$

[DJTheo]

Generally don't think that any Tamiya of today will become as collectable and valuable as the old ones as now many collect them and keep some NIBs, which wasn't the case 20-30 years ago and also Tamiya cars don't differ that much to other brands anymore, most are just another touring car chassis / lexan body combination, unique and detailed bodies and unique chassis are a dying breed. For example a Super Fighter G or Desert Gator simply doesn't have the appeal and uniqueness that their vintage equivalent (SRBs) had. Also kids of today play more with Playstations so those could be the collectibles of the future? [?] Don't forget also the RTR factor which doesn't make the experience as unique as it was and doesn't bind you as much to the model. Also life has more a fastfood style today, buy ready to run, drive till something breaks and then trash it, not only only on RC cars but on most devices, repairing old stuff isn't possible or too expensive, devices are designed to be unrepairable and cheaper to replace as a total.

Anyway, more collectable I think all hard bodied cars will be (Jugg, Blitzer Beetles, Willy, rigs etc), but moneywise more valuable the expensive kits which didn't sell in large quantities (TRFs, TXT, Jugg etc)

Cheers

[mud4fun]

Absolutely agree with Theo but would also add the Mammoth Dump Truck because it wasn't popular and didn't sell well. So will be very rare I think. Especially as alot that did sell will be stripped to make crawlers with......

[SJoerD]

Low sales numbers only indicate rarity, which isn't a guarantee for collectability. In fact, rare kits (like the Road Wizard) are often not considered collectable - while Sand Scorchers (or even 3-speed's) are very collectable but not so rare at all.

People like to collect what they remember from their childhoods - Sand Scrochers, not Road Wizards. With most cars, the rarer they are, the less sought after they are. Of course with many exceptions (Egress anyone?) I guess that means 'Unknown is unloved'?

Also 'collectability' only really indicates a taste of the general public, I find it important to collect what I like myself rather than what others like, so in my eye 'collectability' isn't a big issue in the first place. []

In my opinion, the King Blackfoot will be very collectible, as it's a nice fun car, many people will recognise it, has a hard body shell and it already seems to be discontinued. But then again, as it's a updated version of the origional Blackfoot, it will likely never be more valueable than the old version.

Also, to get back on topic, I would strongly disrecommend buying new kits (or any kit for that matter) as a way of investing money. Before you know it, people are less interrested in it as you expected. Trend pass by at a rapid fase these days, which makes a huge risk factor. If you want to invest money, there are better options. If you want to build and enjoy model cars - then this is the right thing to buy. []

[miramar]

Many good points Sjoerd. As for the Road Wizard, and lack of attraction to most collectors, I think there are several reasons:

1. The name of the model and the boxart indicate a generic model and not a specific formula 1 car, so even if decals for Lotus and Williams (how authentic are they, btw?) are included, most people into F-1 and F-1 model collecting will probably not even consider it.

2. At the time it was launched, F-1 RC racing wasn't yet existing(apart from a F-1 body class in 1/8 track), and being very fragile, it didn't appeal to the RC racing community, so most old racers won't have any fond memories of it, which would otherwise give it a flashback appeal.

3. Being fragile and rather difficult to drive, most people that bought it for fun, were very disappointed.

That said, I think the Road Wizard's uniqueness makes it quite attractive after all. In my opinion, the chassis is beautiful, maybe mostly because of it's lightweight fragile look. It is a "one-shot" (no follow-ups on the same chassis, like most Tamiya models) although some of the parts were used for 58068/69. Also, it was the first Tamiya model to come with two lexan shells in the kit.

Especially when painted in the JPS-livery, the sleek body accentuates the slim chassis in a beautiful way. [8D]I regret selling my New Built JPS RW back in 1985! Can of course get another one, but it won't be the same. []

[SJoerD]

Eric, I also find the Road Wizard an attriactive car, for as far as I'm familiar with it. I can't agree more - it's uniqueness is very appealing. []

quote:

Originally posted by miramar

1. The name of the model and the boxart indicate a generic model and not a specific formula 1 car, so even if decals for Lotus and Williams (how authentic are they, btw?) are included, most people into F-1 and F-1 model collecting will probably not even consider it.

---

id="quote">id="quote">

I must agree, although many older F-1's (such as the old Ligier JS9, Ferrari 312T3) are underrated models and not considered very collectible to most. (at least compared to other cars of the same age) Yet these are modelled after the real cars!

The Brabham BT50 is, with only ONE built model in TC, one of the rarest. []

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/userrides.asp?id=31

[Stefan(2)]

Personally, i think many hard body's will end up

being -wanted- , proberly the hummmer will be one

to watch out for.

For me, i think the trucks & tanks will remain being collectors

items.

But, considering there nature, i dare to say more "static" then

runners they will last a long time in a decent state.

So not many will "die" of use, more likely ending up on a shelf or

store box.

who tosses a Euro 500+ car/tank in the bin when there done playing??

Just my opinion

Stefan

[SJoerD]

quote:

Originally posted by Stefan

who tosses a Euro 500+ car/tank in the bin when there done playing??

---

id="quote">id="quote">

That's exactly what I wonder. But it's the reality of today's fast food culture. The new trend kicks in, the old one gets booted out. Cars, houses, girlfriends, gadgets (including RC cars), flashy IT jobs, mobile phones.... it's everywhere. []

[togfisherman]

Thanks for all your suggestions, and please let me clarify. My intention was not solely for the purpose of investment. I have a 401 k and a 403b to handle that. i doubt social security will be around when i hit 67.5. They say you should collect what you know and like, this way if it bombs as a collectable, it will be there to have fun with. Which is why I was considering certain kits, ready to runs don't interest me, as i like the kits. If the torag had a hard body, it would be a no brainer for me. I did consider the hummer, but i already have a used one in the works. I would be nice to buy a kit new and not one from e-bay that was put together sloppily. Anyway, I will continue my search, and maybe hold out for a re-issue.

mc

[mymonsterbeetleisbroken]

although not current, the tamiya low ride pumpkin must be a future collectable, infact i guess it already is!

as for current kits, i'd go along with the txt-1. (i better get one of these soon then!)

[jocktheglide]

i forgot the tlt is one also i bet the first in line from tamiya a 1/18th scale remote.