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Originally posted by jocktheglide

that reminds jay can we see some pics of your collection man I think I seen it before and it was NICE vintage stuff!!!!! I think you won that wild one MRC-tamiya with battery?????

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Anyway, I told my wife that I'm going to have to put up more shelves because I'm running out of room for NIB's. She says I'm crazy, and I say "yeah, I know" LOL! Now if only I could find that MINT SEALED Bra and Super Shot all my childhood "Tamiya" memories would be complete.[:D]

Enjoy!

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Thank you very much!!

Not all of those kits are sealed( most of the Tamiya kits are though ). All except 5 of them. Well, the Wild One will make 6 not sealed. I need to be able to enjoy looking inside a few of them!! Also, just recently I had to changed my homeowners insurance to cover that "just in case something happens".

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I wouldn't worry too much about the Tamiya kits being shrinkwrapped or not - they all leave the factory unsealed apparently. In the case of your 'sealed' Wild One, it is likely that the bonus items and shrink wrap were courtesy of the distributor, not Tamiya.

- James

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I wouldn't worry too much about the Tamiya kits being shrinkwrapped or not - they all leave the factory unsealed apparently. In the case of your 'sealed' Wild One, it is likely that the bonus items and shrink wrap were courtesy of the distributor, not Tamiya.

- James

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I did find it kinda odd though when I buy from towerhobbies.com sometimes the kits are sealed and sometimes are not though.

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None of the kits i have ever gotten from my lhs have ever been sealed :(

Great collection there too !

Chris

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Thanks for the compliments guys!

I know that we've talked about this before about the seals being factory or NOT factory. I guess I'll never truely know the facts, but if Tamiya manufactured a kit and just put a top over the kit without any kind of "factory seal" then someone could get inside to look, lose, break, or borrow parts. Maybe it is the distributor that shrink wraps the kits, but that kind of defeats the purpose of protecting whats inside for the customer once it has left the factory. If you look at all the other manufactured kits out there they have factory seals that say "do not except this kit if this seal is broken" but that is usually not a shrink wrap type seal. If Tamiya themselves never sealed any of there kits it makes me wonder why. I guess they trust all the people of the world or maybe Tamiya feels that the distributor is still part of the "FACTORY PROCESS".

Weather it be at the factory or not I like the shrink wrap on my Tamiya kits. It protects the box from many elements keeping the box art and box nice, clean, clear, and crisp.

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Very nice collection, just like having a LHS in your house! As for the seal, I have never seen a sealed Tamiya kit in my time working in my LHS. Tamiya apparentely check each box at the factory by weighing it to make sure the contents are correct. It is exceedingly rare for us to get a kit without all the parts. The people that do come back have usually lost some small bit they themselves have dropped down the back of the sofa!

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Indeed, a very nice collection. And that is one good thing about shrink wrap, you're usually guaranteed to get the box in better condition. Fewer scratches and scuffs, for example.

The six NIB buggies you have there in the middle are actually six of my most favourite buggies - the Frog, Fox, HotShot, Falcon, Grasshopper and Hornet!

- James

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quote:If Tamiya themselves never sealed any of there kits it makes me wonder why.

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Guess Tamiya never put seals as the inner box designs (especially on vintage kits with those lovely blisters and boxes) are a part of the marketing and product, am sure many sceptical buyers were convinced to buy after seing those lolely interieurs, so why would they hide their costly effort of designing and manufacturing high end interieurs? If they would seal them, they would just save the money and throw parts inside like most other companies. Also model kits are (or at least should be) sold at LHS where kits are close to the shop keeper and opened with his attendance, not supermarkets. Maybe its also part of the Japanese culture to trust and respect the individual.

I personally would want a sealed kit even less then a normal NIB as first wouldn't be able to admire those beautiful interieurs or even smells (like a famous statement from one of the oldest Tamiya collectors: "nothing better then the packaged smell of Tokyos 80s air"), second would be always curiours or have the fear what is really inside like Schrodingers Cat paradoxon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodingers_cat , third wouldn't pay more for something that isn't even original from Tamiya Japan, fourth how can I be sure the seals weren't put lately on when cheeky sellers saw the hype about sealed kits in TC? [;)]

Still collecting them makes your collection also unique and in this sense more valueble too [8D]

Cheers

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You all already know I like your collection! Better put a dehumidifier down there.

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The dehumidifier was just added. Works great! Nice cool and dry air in the City![:D]

I also want to say thanks again Jay for the absolutely PERFECT MINT" sealed Falcon! I know it was a long time ago that I got that from you, but man I must say its still one of the best condition kits in the City. Seal is perfect, box art color perfectly bright, box edges perfect, and everything about it is a C-10!

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quote:If Tamiya themselves never sealed any of there kits it makes me wonder why.

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Guess Tamiya never put seals as the inner box designs (especially on vintage kits with those lovely blisters and boxes) are a part of the marketing and product, am sure many sceptical buyers were convinced to buy after seing those lolely interieurs, so why would they hide their costly effort of designing and manufacturing high end interieurs? If they would seal them, they would just save the money and throw parts inside like most other companies. Also model kits are (or at least should be) sold at LHS where kits are close to the shop keeper and opened with his attendance, not supermarkets. Maybe its also part of the Japanese culture to trust and respect the individual.

I personally would want a sealed kit even less then a normal NIB as first wouldn't be able to admire those beautiful interieurs or even smells (like a famous statement from one of the oldest Tamiya collectors: "nothing better then the packaged smell of Tokyos 80s air"), second would be always curiours or have the fear what is really inside like Schrodingers Cat paradoxon
, third wouldn't pay more for something that isn't even original from Tamiya Japan, fourth how can I be sure the seals weren't put lately on when cheeky sellers saw the hype about sealed kits in TC? [
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Still collecting them makes your collection also unique and in this sense more valueble too [8D]

Cheers

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I know what you mean Theo. With the blister packs that everyone admires I wonder if Tamiya actually knew back in the day when they were building those blister packs that their stuff would be so collectible in the future?

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Just out of interest, percentage wise how much more would a collector be prepared to pay for a seal kit over a none sealed kit? (just wondering if its worth buying a shrink wrap machine ;-)

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Jock - For the most part. I'm very picky about seals and box conditions though.

NetSmith - Do your homework.[:P]

Example - Last NIB unsealed Fox I saw on E-bay went for $400-500. Just about 3 weeks ago a mint sealed NIB Fox went for $660. That says it all.

If your "(just wondering if its worth buying a shrink wrap machine ) " going to start sealing up kits then I hope the kit boxes you have are in flawless condition. Don't make it obvious. A seal from the 1980's is a lot more britlle and fragile than a fresh and crisp seal from 2005.[;)] ( I've got enough of them to see/feel the difference )

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Just out of interest, percentage wise how much more would a collector be prepared to pay for a seal kit over a none sealed kit? (just wondering if its worth buying a shrink wrap machine ;-)

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LOL Chris!!!!! Your are not the first person to have that thought!!!

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The boxes are A1 mint - the insides vary from nice to rubbish but I don't suppose that matters as long the weight and 'rattle' is right ;)

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I agree a sealed in box one for me is more desirable than a non-sealed one I believe this will distinguish the price differences between new re-release ones. for example I would rather pay 500 dollars for a sealed vintage LB than a non-sealed LB if given the choice betwen buying 5 re-released LBs vs a sealed LB I take the sealed vintage one as opposed to buying a vintage non-sealed to a re-released one in this case I take the re-release one.

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I agree with you Jock, and I feel the same way. I know not everybody has the same taste, but its just the personal preferance to what one person wants to collect. Some like to collect any/every vintage junk out there, ( no names mentioned but you know who you are[:D] ) some like to collect runners or mint displays, some like to collect ANY CONDITION nib's, and some like to collect mint sealed c9/c10 NIB's. I'm probably the most picky collector you'll ever meet, but its all about preferance and thats what we are all here on this site for.

Well I just got the Wild One and I couldn't help from taking another picture.[:)]

SO ENOUGH OF MY COLLECTION DISPLAY PICS LETS SEE WHAT SOME OF YOUR DISPLAYS LOOKS LIKE. I could only find a couple in the members showroom and this one has to be my favorite.

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It also feels good to be an inspiration for this guy.[:D]

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.a...d=30484&id=6953

SO LETS SEE'EM GUYS!![8D]

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Once I get my new basement cleaned up and take care of some safety issues, I will post one of mine. This thread might be long gone by the time I get to it though......

Jay

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Spot on - it this club is made up of all sorts, which is what makes it so interesting.

I've never managed to get all my models together in one place - just don't have the space. And my wife would definately put me in the 'collecting junk' bracket - lol

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