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Embarking on a 3 way with some falcons

Falcon #3 - rolling chassis in need of a clean up

Falcon #1 - filthy wrecked chassis in need of cleaning and repair

Falcon #2 - brand new chassis, gearbox, wheels and loads of other bits (about 75% there)

I’ll post some pics shortly 

 

JJ

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Ok so here are the 3 falcons I’m working on...

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from left to right

Falcon #1 - filthy shed. 

Parts: most parts included. Some replacement parts needed (gear box has some damage). Wheels not falcon ones.

Tub chassis: strong with support added to weak parts. This chassis will end up on Falcon #3

Shell: solid-ish. Missing some stickers. Missing rear wing. 

Process - Strip everything & deep clean with sonic cleaner, petrol, soap etc etc.

 

Falcon #2 - Shelf Queen

Parts: About 70% new parts (chassis, wheels, lower and upper arms, trailing arms etc). No screws, drive shafts, steering, front towers, suspension etc)

Shell: none - will have to be a Kamtec replica but I have a set of brand new original decals.

Process: buy many more new parts, spend lots, hunt parts, research etc.

Falcon #3 - rolling chassis

Parts: 99% complete. Some damaged parts to be swapped out. 

Shell: honest but rough. It’s gonna stay like this though ;)

Process: Tidy up and use as a reference vehicle for the other 2

JJ

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So falcon #1 has been through a clean today

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Plus all the gearbox parts and screws have been soaking in petrol to try and get the caked grease and crud off them. 

JJ

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Falcon #2 I’m pushing on with the small amount of screws I have spare.

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and ive been ordering parts!!

1 x Kamtec shell

2 x 0005059 steering (got hop parts 54154)

2 x 2685018 32mm screw pins

4 x 2685017 46mm screw pins

6 x 2685023 22mm screw pins

1 x 3515006 18T pinion 

1 x 9405245 damper bag (Inc springs and rods)

2 x 5005020 long suspension spring 

2 x 2685026 body mount 

4 x 00115007 steering arm adjuster 

2 x 5325005 63mm steering arm

1 x 531009 80mm steering arm

2 x 355002 10mm axle shaft

2 x 48mm dog bone shaft

2 x shock towers (3D printed)

1 x 4305166 resistor cover

JJ

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So today I finished off Falcon #3

completely stripped down what I had and made sure that each part was the best of the used parts. 

1 x suspension Tower was damaged a little as were the front edges of the lower wishbones 

gearbox had a few damaged screw mounts for the rear cage so made up a new casing from some of the parts.

these were replaced and the Falcon #1 chassis was also used to create a really nice and honest Falcon.

brand new 540 and pinion gear.

all original radio gear and ceramic resistor. All cables routed nicely.

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Front end rebuilt and wheels tidied up

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Chassis has been reinforced at the weak points but no damage 

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Lexan replica shell arrived today for Falcon #2 

not a bad replica but a few flaws in the area under the wing and the cut lines are almost non-existent so marked them as well as I was able.

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i used the other 2 shells for reference.

Cutting is always a PITA for some reason but the falcon shell is a whole other league.... who designed this shape ha

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lots of time and v careful trimming with a mix of Stanley, craft and scissors and it was done.

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the Lexan kit comes with the window masking kit do not long till I start that.

i have a metallic graphite/black I used for my comical hornet and it looks lovely so will use that again. I’m not gonna do any s*******y masking and painting of the red and just gonna rely on the stickers.

the question is, do I use the original sticker set or the replica set (and sell the originals to support the build costs)

thoughts??

 

JJ

 

 

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And here it is in an all black stealth look 

(Lexan looks cloudy as the paint cools the plastic and it’s late and humid outside so there is a little condensation on the outer shell)

 

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JJ

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Some more work on Falcon #2

gearbox treated to ball bearings 

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utilised a brand new resistor plate to mount a resistor cover (no resistor as I’ll be running an ESC and 2.4ghz but wanted a retro look)

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and then ive fitted the brand new front bumper and have a brand new torque tuned 540 waiting for an 18T pinion.

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Its now 1:34am so off to bed (just glad my shed is so warm)

JJ

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Falcon #2 3D printed front suspension towers arrived today.

really nicely made and I love the 3D printed look 

they have extra strengthening at the point they normally fail 

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(Sorry - am unable to upload pics at the moment due to a weird forum limit)

 

JJ

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Really happy with how the metallic black came out...

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now do I use the original decals or the replicas??

JJ

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Potentially - it’s a modern take on a retro car anyway. It’s my ReRe Falcon.

So I think you are right.

Got the front end set up closer to completion (I’m avoiding doing the suspension at the moment) with the 3D printed parts on - and I quite like them. Engineering on show up front.

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and got the rear end fitted with the torque tuned...

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I’ve not been home much this weekend so it’s been a light touch today.

 

JJ

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Ok so I went to start with the repro stickers and the colour watch is soooooo poor I couldn’t use them and be happy :(

...the red on the repro is very pinky

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I’ve gone minimalistic though on stickers and placement....

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I’m quite happy with the results so far. 

I’m missing headlights - need to keep my eye out unless they are the same as another model - help anyone?!

Done a little more on the build (running out of screws and washers now though)

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I think I need to commit to suspension build now - I really hope I have all the pieces :(

JJ

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I think the lights are fairly generic across most Tamiya models, maybe someone can actually confirm

 

Shame about the decals, where are they from?

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I've heard of the 'pink' issue with repro decals before, but that was many a year ago.

I have some myself, but have been packed away for that long I can't remember the quality of them.

It's a shame you couldn't use them.

4 hours ago, mtbkym01 said:

I think the lights are fairly generic across most Tamiya models, maybe someone can actually confirm

Falcon Z parts.

Spot on mtbkym01. Pretty much a standard light for Tamiya.

Pt#X8428, 0225001, 10225001 or 54626.

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I noted that the hornet set are the same

however I like without

Potentially considering some aftermarket 1/10 ones - sacrilege I’m sure 

JJ 

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This evening i assembled the front wishbones and some additional bits on the rear end.

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in been waiting for fitting these as I had zero of the 3mm slim nuts so had to order and wait for them to arrive. (I’ve ordered a lot from jadlam and luckily everything always gets here really quick)

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still using all new parts - rear body mounts and hub carriers.

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upper and lower wishbones all still packaged.

Reinforced hub/stub axles (don’t know why they are called uprights) plus new screw pins.

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Although I have tamiya grease, I like to use singer sewing machine oil and it lasts and gives a much better coating (plus you get loads) 

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...I use it to lube my drone motor bearings mainly.

More new parts...

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But it’s all coming together nicely (still haven’t braved the suspension but I’m quite confident the damper pack plus the 2 extra springs is all I need) - tomorrows job I promise ;)

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JJ

 

 

 

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Great looking build and your pictures are really high quality. A pleasure to see those shiny clean parts in high definition.

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Are your repro decals likes these? I'll take them off you for my Falcon homage.

Falcon was my first car, but I wouldn't run one now, and not into shelf queens (but I love the work you have done), so I built this. The shell needs doing again after a run in with a staffie after this pic was taken.
 

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dunno - really hard to tell....much more pink than the bright red of the originals

is that on a TT-02b chassis?

Its v cool

I have a load of cars. most are for the joy of building them but i have a buggy and a monster truck to drive.

my main driver is a tt-02b neo scorcher running brushless and 3s LiPO (i have a "me" thread in general to see all the other cars i have.

JJ

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Either way if you want to sell them on, I'll take them. The body needs a refresh and I think I can do a better job on it, but still not worth wasting original decals.

Its a 2010 DT02 Holiday buggy (to get the yellow wheels). I sold the body, and put a sand viper shell on it and bought the yellow CVAs. The rest is all stock. Its a missile with 5200kv motor and its never broke any of the drive train, just a c hub.

 

 

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Happy to sell them on

i paid £11 for them so you can have for £8 if you want 

JJ

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