Re-releases who doesn't care?

[DJTheo]

I also am not worried abut re-res as I don't find them fighting the originals but more complementing them, in my case originals being used as shelf queens and re-res as runners or custom projects or paint shemes which I wouldn't dare on rare and expensive originals [8D]

Cheer

[DJTheo]

quote:On the argument of runners i really don't see that it makes that much difference does it? You can get runner examples of most vintage models for low prices, a vintage runner hornet before the re-release could be found for £30 or less anyway. A runner SRB could be found for £150 easily, the re-releases just allow you for similar money to build a kit from the box and run a new car.

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Yes, but I personally for example had a bad feeling (guilt) when something vintage was breaking as I knew that thanks to me now one less part of history exists. Also the thought that a vintage runner survived 20 years was putting me a barrier to run it, as it would be a shame to break now after it survived so many years.

quote:As for parts, i read elsewhere that Tamiya are not producing parts for the re-re cars so parts availability is limited to broken up kits, the re-re kits are limited run as well apparently so while the parts are cheap now they may not be forever.

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That is wrong, dealers can order parts (which now have mostly 9 digit numbers), quite few TC sponsors do, Jason has sold hunderds pairs of SRB tires and wheels, no way they come from split up kits.

Cheers

[J3cubfan]

I remember reading a thread awhile back regarding these two words, investment and Vintage Tamiya cars. In my opinion, these just don't go together. You can not compare restoring a Sand Scorcher or anything else to that of a 1:1 scale vehicle. It just doesn't make sense and trust me, I've tried to justify doing so.[:I].

I still have mix feelings over the re-res. If one wanted to rebuild a grasshopper or hornet, they could do it relatively inexpensively from just going to ebay. In fact, when I restored my Pajero, most of the parts that I used on that restoration where Grasshopper parts because they where so readily available.

None of the re-releases really appeal to me as a collector. I've thinned my collection out quite abit and only kept the two or three cars that I had when I was in my childhood. What does appeal to me with the re-res are the fact that I could buy the frog not because of the kit itself, but I could turn it into a BRAT.

My kids constantly ask me what I did for fun when I was a kid. Well the hornet and grasshopper are certainly a great why to spend time with the kids. It allows them to learn about basic mechanics and you get to relive your childhood experience....

So while my thoughts on these are mixed, I'd have at it. So looking at the re releases I can see both sides of the coin.

[DeeMiller]

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Originally posted by J3cubfan

You can not compare restoring a Sand Scorcher or anything else to that of a 1:1 scale vehicle. It just doesn't make sense and trust me, I've tried to justify doing so.[:I].

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Why not?

You have to think bigger, in fact, some models are worth less than the sum of the parts, others aren't.

That also goes for RL cars.

It's not the size that counts.

I only use original screws, washers etc. for my Tamiya-models.

I don't make parts myself, because they'll never become the original ones.

I did the same thing on my 1982 RX-7, just to keep it original.

For instance: I will not put the 13B engine in it, even if it fits with no problems.

Early 1979-1985 RX-7's (originals) are worth more than the second generation (1986-1992, "re-release") in means of collectability

So to get on topic again, I don't care about re-releases, they're not the originals.

Grtz Dee

[David236]

I think the rereleases will be a major positive in the long run. initially vintage values will drop but the rereleases will spark interest in the Vintage cars amonsgt the R/C enthusiasts who have long forgotten them. I'm seeing guys buying the Hornet kits who would have never bought a Tamiya kit before. So interest in Tamiya in general is growing because of this and that will help revive interest in the older vintage Tamiya kits as well. Success for Tamiya as a company is also a benefit to the collector as well. The newer Tamiya Kits just don't have that same appeal as the older kits so maybe going backwards will only help them in going forward and hopefully they can regain the popularity they enjoyed in the 80's.

[J3cubfan]

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Originally posted by DeeMiller

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Originally posted by J3cubfan

You can not compare restoring a Sand Scorcher or anything else to that of a 1:1 scale vehicle. It just doesn't make sense and trust me, I've tried to justify doing so.[:I].

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Why not?

You have to think bigger, in fact, some models are worth less than the sum of the parts, others aren't.

That also goes for RL cars.

It's not the size that counts.

I only use original screws, washers etc. for my Tamiya-models.

I don't make parts myself, because they'll never become the original ones.

I did the same thing on my 1982 RX-7, just to keep it original.

For instance: I will not put the 13B engine in it, even if it fits with no problems.

Early 1979-1985 RX-7's (originals) are worth more than the second generation (1986-1992, "re-release") in means of

collectability

So to get on topic again, I don't care about re-releases, they're not the originals.

Grtz Dee

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I agree with you. You could buy a ragged out SRB chassis and sell it for parts and recoup your initial investment and get a little more back. But Where I was going with this was those who are using these cars as an investment instrument would be better suited putting their money in some other financial instruments in my humble opinion.

Where I was going with my other point is the re-res can be a mixed blessing. While others state that its affects prices on Ebay and such, it allows those of the buyer, whose not necessarily a collector to purchase one of these cars or it parts and put them toward a current restoration. I made mention of the paddle trac tires for the sand scorcher. Since I don't have a Sand Scorcher anymore, a person restoring one of these cars could conceivable use the re released Grasshopper tires and wheels as part of their restoration process.

[bmwe46330]

my opinion for the re-release:

1.good news to those new collectors.

2.nightmare to those who owned the original and ebay seller

3.profitable for Tamiya - huge request on re-releasing the discontinued.

well...it all comes down to money I guess.

[jocktheglide]

quote:Originally posted by bmwe46330

my opinion for the re-release:

1.good news to those new collectors.

2.nightmare to those who owned the original and ebay seller

3.profitable for Tamiya - huge request on re-releasing the discontinued.

well...it all comes down to money I guess.

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so so true sums up the whole vintage tamiya section already...

[Pellandine-sports]

ME!! I don't care.......couldn't give a monkeys!!

I buy for my pleasure and when I've finished with them I'll give them to my kids who can trash them, build them or do whatever. Life is for living.................[]