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TL01B Lockdown Build!

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Further to my recent thread in General I thought I would document my progress (as let's face it, there's not much else to do)

I'm starting this in the same vein as the thread started by @markbt73's Apollo 13 inspired build, where I hope to get a usable model out of the contents of my home! Especially as postage times for spares have gone out of the window.

I wanted a Stadium truck like the Toyota Prerunner, Ford F150 or Chevy S10 - unfortunately the cost of those bodies is prohibitive.

My TL01B is in a bad state - it's not yet clear how this started life, whether it was a Tamiya model or one of the many clones. Lots of clues pointed at the latter, which had subsequently been repaired with genuine Tamiya parts over time. 

I bid and won this on an eBay auction, costing somewhere in the region of £21. 

It then sat in my shed for over a year whilst I decided what to do with it. Since we're all locked indoors for the forseeable I dug it out to have a look at the 'starting point':

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Some curiousities:

It has some decent turn-buckle tie-rods for the front steering 

There's no wheels at all :blink:

The suspension isn't really moving, it's binding like things have gone rusty

The propshaft is missing

The battery retaining pieces are missing

It has a Front bumper fitted to the back

My assumption is that this is 2 TL01B Clones turned into one usable chassis which eventually became un-usable over time. Let the teardown commence!

Before even removing any parts I noticed a build-up of grit around the bevel gear location where the propshaft was missing:

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And upon removing the motor:

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Eww

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There was a distinct smell in here, in a previous life this car has clearly been on a trip to the seaside!

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The servo horn is strange too - the spring clip piece is clear plastic, the horn on top of the servo is white and the familiar arm piece is traditionally black. Also note the lack of an oval cut-out beneath the servo horn in the chassis, usually present on most TL01 mouldings towards the end of the model run.

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The differential gears were very 'gritty' and unfortunately this has worn the teeth. I hope this is usable or I have a suitable replacement. Am I right in thinking that this moulding is the same on M-03, M-04 and even MF-01X models? They certainly look the same size, even if their not exactly the same shape.

Inside the diffs seemed to be in much better shape, as you'd expect:

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Although bizarrely they have these extra 'spurs' coming off of the triangle bevel gear axle thingymajig. Definitely a clone!

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I also had a bag full of random bits and bobs which came in the box:

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An extra diff! This reinforcing my belief that this was once 2 clones turned into one. Also included are those missing battery connectors and a very sorry looking propshaft with the associated bevel gears.

Strip-down complete, I was left with 3 piles. To keep and clean and to send straight to the bin. The majority of screws had surface rust, bearings had to be forcibly removed from their housings and also had rust, the hinge pins had rust and weren't allowing smooth movement of the wishbones, etc. I'm sure I have some suitable replacements for these somewhere.

The centre pile of bits though:

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Ew, grim. They had become 'at one' with these bearings, having fused together through a shared likeness for rust. I'll need these bits!

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A very old bottle of Gunk engine degreaser. I'm not sure how well this will work, but certainly it has a very strong chemical smell. I set about scrubbing all of the plastics down.

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I kept all the retained drivetrain hardware and the gears separate, using the last of the Gunk degreaser I produced a small chemical bath for them overnight. I know most of you will have a proper ultrasonic cleaner for these sorts of bits, but I don't and I'm not about to go down to the shops and get one because...they're closed. This was the best I could do!

In the morning I removed the plastic gears and put them together with the chassis parts for a trip through the dishwasher before my wife got out of bed :lol:

The metal parts now looked like this, much more spangly but those awkward parts still fused together:

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So the above parts are now taking a second bath, this time in WD40 penetrating oil.

It's already gone a nasty shade of black, so it's obviously doing something!

The dishwasher still has 30 minutes left to go, as I clearly can't operate the buttons properly. I hope it wasn't so hot to have warped anything :unsure:

 

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this gives me an idea, cut the top off remove guts and you have a scale garbage can😁

 

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7 minutes ago, ACCEL said:

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this gives me an idea, cut the top off remove guts and you have a scale garbage can😁

 

I've been trying to find adjustable tie rods for this car for a long time. I just gave up and listed for sale on ebay. The stock rods suck and the shocks do too. I bought the Baja King NIB like 3 years ago for around $250 lol. 

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3 hours ago, rwordenjr said:

I've been trying to find adjustable tie rods for this car for a long time. I just gave up and listed for sale on ebay. The stock rods suck and the shocks do too. I bought the Baja King NIB like 3 years ago for around $250 lol. 

The stock rods and shocks are not great, but replacements are easy enough to come by. Adjustable tierods can be made up from a set of Tamiya adjusters and a pair of part-threaded 3mm rods, and Mini CVA shocks are a direct swap for the stock friction things. All bits on the Bay of E, so no quarantine breaches required! 

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M3 threated rods are about $7 for 250mm.  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M2-M2-5-M3-M4-250mm-High-Tensile-12-9-All-Thread-Threaded-Rod-Bar-Studs-Black/182178734859?hash=item2a6ab2e30b:m:mfmTTF7ZoIf2j1AMCgtUtoQ

 

Bolt cutters cost $12.  

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NQ4OYO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

You can cut threaded rods.  File the tips and use any 3mm adjusters.  It's one of those things that's easy once you get the parts.  Before you get the parts?  It seemed impossible to me.  I thought, "why don't they just make it in such and such mm?"  For posterity, I wanted to put this option out there.  

 

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28 minutes ago, Juggular said:

M3 threated rods are about $7 for 250mm.  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M2-M2-5-M3-M4-250mm-High-Tensile-12-9-All-Thread-Threaded-Rod-Bar-Studs-Black/182178734859?hash=item2a6ab2e30b:m:mfmTTF7ZoIf2j1AMCgtUtoQ

 

Bolt cutters cost $12.  

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NQ4OYO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

You can cut threaded rods.  File the tips and use any 3mm adjusters.  It's one of those things that's easy once you get the parts.  Before you get the parts?  It seemed impossible to me.  I thought, "why don't they just make it in such and such mm?"  For posterity, I wanted to put this option out there.  

 

Thanks for your suggestions! At this point, I don't even want the TL01B because I've bought a lot of cars since then. I'm basically giving it away lol. $80+ shipping. It's been run twice.

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1 hour ago, TurnipJF said:

The stock rods and shocks are not great, but replacements are easy enough to come by. Adjustable tierods can be made up from a set of Tamiya adjusters and a pair of part-threaded 3mm rods, and Mini CVA shocks are a direct swap for the stock friction things. All bits on the Bay of E, so no quarantine breaches required! 

Want to buy mine? Lol 

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15 minutes ago, rwordenjr said:

Want to buy mine? Lol 

Tempting, but with three in the fleet already, I think I am set for the moment. :)

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1 hour ago, TurnipJF said:

Tempting, but with three in the fleet already, I think I am set for the moment. :)

haha sounds good. I've got it posted on yabe and it has 7 watchers but no takers yet. includes servo, hw 1060 and flysky receiver

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19 hours ago, ChrisRx718 said:

The propshaft is missing

I guess I know why propshaft was not installed. I had these clones before and I found out that chinese made a mistake around propshaft bevel. Once you try to fit 1140 bearing in place of bushing, propshaft won't run smoothly, because original bushings are 3-3.5mm thick. And even with bushings I could not fully tighten covers.

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So onwards with the build now that the drivetrain bits are dried and clean,

First up, following the Original Tamiya (:blink:) manual, build the diffs-

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So the one on the left was salvageable, but the other one (rear gearbox end) was pretty ruined. I was confident it would have made both an awful sound and had a very limited lifespan. I think this one is from an M-03? Perhaps, who knows. 

Rear one filled with diff putty (basically expensive blu-tac!) and front one built with moly grease.

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On with the rest of the gears; these ones were in my kit box - probably from building a TL01 with the optional Speed Tuned Gear set. 

More to follow, but I have hit a snag...

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