ACCEL 2014 Posted September 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Champ85 said: What other one is that? The other Pretty one, Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. or is it Blueooooooooooooooooooooooooo? but when? that's to be determined. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superluminal 3729 Posted September 28, 2020 They are stunning. Almost worth buying another couple of kits just to get those motors in them. Like pieces of jewellery. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACCEL 2014 Posted September 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Superluminal said: They are stunning. Almost worth buying another couple of kits just to get those motors in them. Like pieces of jewellery. my sentiments exactly. Make wonderful Christmas ornaments 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ85 608 Posted September 28, 2020 23 hours ago, ACCEL said: The other Pretty one, Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. or is it Blueooooooooooooooooooooooooo? but when? that's to be determined. The blue 480S is part of the 480T package. You get to choose which color you want by swapping the endbells and sticker, but the internals stay the same (no new rotor or stator). Size:35.8x51.2mm Shaft Size:3.175x17mm Weight:180g approx. Turns:21.5T Voltage:Max 12.8V (2~3S LiPo compatible) Kv Value:1950(rpm/V) Maximum Speed(with 7.4V):14430rpm Maximum Current:30A Maximum Output:260W Maximum Efficiency:91% 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACCEL 2014 Posted September 29, 2020 you know 2 hours ago, Champ85 said: The blue 480S is part of the 480T package. You get to choose which color you want by swapping the endbells and sticker, but the internals stay the same (no new rotor or stator). Size:35.8x51.2mm Shaft Size:3.175x17mm Weight:180g approx. Turns:21.5T Voltage:Max 12.8V (2~3S LiPo compatible) Kv Value:1950(rpm/V) Maximum Speed(with 7.4V):14430rpm Maximum Current:30A Maximum Output:260W Maximum Efficiency:91% you know when i read it at RCMart it does say, "This is Kyosho LE MANS 480T 21.5T Brushless Motor w/ 480S Parts". when i seen it in stock i didn't look at the pictures. well i'll be a monkey's uncle😃 Thanx so much for the insight, still purchasing another one, i don't like fumbling for colors. Motor sure is nice, it needed to be posted twice. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ85 608 Posted September 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, ACCEL said: you know when i read it at RCMart it does say, "This is Kyosho LE MANS 480T 21.5T Brushless Motor w/ 480S Parts". when i seen it in stock i didn't look at the pictures. well i'll be a monkey's uncle😃 Thanx so much for the insight, still purchasing another one, i don't like fumbling for colors. Motor sure is nice, it needed to be posted twice. I wish they actually offered a different stator wind that was 17.5T for the 480S (you know, for some actual speed increases). Kyosho cheaped out on this release. A color change and sticker swap doesn't make a 480T into a 480S. 14,430rpm @7.4V is slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACCEL 2014 Posted September 29, 2020 i did 6 minutes ago, Champ85 said: I wish they actually offered a different stator wind that was 17.5T for the 480S (you know, for some actual speed increases). Kyosho cheaped out on this release. A color change and sticker swap doesn't make a 480T into a 480S. 14,430rpm @7.4V is slow. it's a sad and like button push then, these will be going into cars that do not need to see blurred vision Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matman 1498 Posted September 29, 2020 Whos to say the timing is the same ? Between blue and green parts ?. Just my 2 cents worth Is S ( maybe stock ) and T ( maybe timed ) ? Just saying . Would like to find out if that is the difference .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinjpayne 273 Posted September 29, 2020 In Kyosho nomenclature 'S' is Speed, 'T' is Torque (and 'E' is Endurance). Like @matman says, are the screw positions on the end bell different to change the motor timing? We need to know! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ85 608 Posted September 29, 2020 15 hours ago, matman said: Whos to say the timing is the same ? Between blue and green parts ?. Just my 2 cents worth Is S ( maybe stock ) and T ( maybe timed ) ? Just saying . Would like to find out if that is the difference .. You mean to adjust the hall effect sensors? I guess that's possible. They are the only thing that could be adjusted mechanically, timing wise. If it did change between the S and T endbells, you'd think Kyosho would have put it in the specs but there is no mention. Edit: Actually, the Kyosho product page does state this: Quote ●Only the external appearance changes, not the performance. So it looks like it's just a color change, no timing differences. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACCEL 2014 Posted September 30, 2020 It's a COVID thing. for the most part if they were two different motors and someone wanted two, they would had doubled their money on some orders. Most manufactures The "S' & "T" as stated by martinjpayne is what they stand for Sport (speed) and Torque, i've never seen an "E" Endurance one, unless it was that motor i threw as far as i could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Champ85 608 Posted December 16, 2020 I finally got the two 480T motors that I ordered from Banzai on October 6th! They were shipped via SEA Oct 7th and sat in a US warehouse for two weeks starting Dec 2nd before finally moving to USPS distribution and delivered to my mailbox today. So happy they were not lost. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unixphreak 60 Posted December 23, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 9:57 PM, ACCEL said: It's a COVID thing. for the most part if they were two different motors and someone wanted two, they would had doubled their money on some orders. Most manufactures The "S' & "T" as stated by martinjpayne is what they stand for Sport (speed) and Torque, i've never seen an "E" Endurance one, unless it was that motor i threw as far as i could. The Kyosho LeMans 600E vintage but nothing has been re-released as and endurance model yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Room335 738 Posted April 14, 2021 The first time I saw the Newman Porsche 956, I knew I had to have one: Problem is, RM-01 unbuilt kits are pretty scarce these days. So I pulled the trigger on a Kyosho Fantom, in the hopes that I can make the Porsche body fit. Wheelbase and width are nearly identical between the 2. We shall see... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites