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12 minutes ago, Champ85 said:

What other one is that?

KyoshoLeMans480TBlue.jpg

The other Pretty one, Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. or is it Blueooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

but when? that's to be determined.

 

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They are stunning. Almost worth buying another couple of kits just to get those motors in them.

Like pieces of jewellery.

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34 minutes ago, Superluminal said:

They are stunning. Almost worth buying another couple of kits just to get those motors in them.

Like pieces of jewellery.

my sentiments exactly.

Make wonderful Christmas ornaments 

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23 hours ago, ACCEL said:

KyoshoLeMans480TBlue.jpg

The other Pretty one, Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. or is it Blueooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

but when? that's to be determined.

 

The blue 480S is part of the 480T package.  You get to choose which color you want by swapping the endbells and sticker, but the internals stay the same (no new rotor or stator).

480T.jpg.26ee535841ee152df53185a811a2dcb0.jpg

 

Size:35.8x51.2mm
Shaft Size:3.175x17mm
Weight:180g approx.
Turns:21.5T
Voltage:Max 12.8V (2~3S LiPo compatible)
Kv Value:1950(rpm/V)
Maximum Speed(with 7.4V):14430rpm
Maximum Current:30A
Maximum Output:260W
Maximum Efficiency:91%

 

 

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2 hours ago, Champ85 said:

The blue 480S is part of the 480T package.  You get to choose which color you want by swapping the endbells and sticker, but the internals stay the same (no new rotor or stator).

480T.jpg.26ee535841ee152df53185a811a2dcb0.jpg

 

Size:35.8x51.2mm
Shaft Size:3.175x17mm
Weight:180g approx.
Turns:21.5T
Voltage:Max 12.8V (2~3S LiPo compatible)
Kv Value:1950(rpm/V)
Maximum Speed(with 7.4V):14430rpm
Maximum Current:30A
Maximum Output:260W
Maximum Efficiency:91%

 

 

you know when i read it at RCMart it does say, "This is Kyosho LE MANS 480T 21.5T Brushless Motor w/ 480S Parts".

when i seen it in stock i didn't look at the pictures.

well i'll be a monkey's uncle😃

Thanx so much for the insight, still purchasing another one,

i don't like fumbling for colors.

Motor sure is nice, it needed to be posted twice.

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39 minutes ago, ACCEL said:

you know when i read it at RCMart it does say, "This is Kyosho LE MANS 480T 21.5T Brushless Motor w/ 480S Parts".

when i seen it in stock i didn't look at the pictures.

well i'll be a monkey's uncle😃

Thanx so much for the insight, still purchasing another one,

i don't like fumbling for colors.

Motor sure is nice, it needed to be posted twice.

I wish they actually offered a different stator wind that was 17.5T for the 480S (you know, for some actual speed increases).  Kyosho cheaped out on this release.  A color change and sticker swap doesn't make a 480T into a 480S.  14,430rpm @7.4V is slow.

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i did

6 minutes ago, Champ85 said:

I wish they actually offered a different stator wind that was 17.5T for the 480S (you know, for some actual speed increases).  Kyosho cheaped out on this release.  A color change and sticker swap doesn't make a 480T into a 480S.  14,430rpm @7.4V is slow.

it's a sad and like button push then,

these will be going into cars that do not need to see blurred vision

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Whos to say the timing is the same ?  Between blue and green parts ?.  Just my 2 cents worth 

Is S ( maybe stock ) and T ( maybe timed ) ? Just saying . Would like to find out if that is the difference ..

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In Kyosho nomenclature 'S' is Speed, 'T' is Torque (and 'E' is Endurance). Like @matman says, are the screw positions on the end bell different to change the motor timing?

We need to know!

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15 hours ago, matman said:

Whos to say the timing is the same ?  Between blue and green parts ?.  Just my 2 cents worth 

Is S ( maybe stock ) and T ( maybe timed ) ? Just saying . Would like to find out if that is the difference ..

You mean to adjust the hall effect sensors?  I guess that's possible.  They are the only thing that could be adjusted mechanically, timing wise.  If it did change between the S and T endbells, you'd think Kyosho would have put it in the specs but there is no mention.

Edit:  Actually, the Kyosho product page does state this:

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●Only the external appearance changes, not the performance.

So it looks like it's just a color change, no timing differences.

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It's a COVID thing. 

for the most part if they were two different motors and someone wanted two, they would had doubled their money on some orders.

 Most manufactures The "S' & "T" as stated by martinjpayne  is what they stand for Sport (speed) and Torque, i've never seen an "E" Endurance one,

unless it was that motor i threw as far as i could.

 

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