SRb handling.....

[tanker(2)]

I was just running my fully hopped up SRB (differential, carbon chassis, ESC, trimmed weight, trailing rear-arms, RCH front arm, wide front end, lexan body, 14 turn motor etc..).

After that I ran my RC10 with MIP 4wd conversion, man oh man, the SRB felt like egested food!!!! The RC10 was like a dream on rail.

Wonder why I spent all the time/$$ to get the SRB running. Silly me.

[akemag]

Think it´s best to let the old SRB´s be in original condition (more or less), since they never can be especially good on the track.

I enjoy mine (Scorcher) for what it is, a heavy pice of hard driven good looking beauty.

But i´m sure that someone could be intersted in your hopped up car, and could pay a good price for it.

[tanker(2)]

Thought I was trying to see how much 'modern' technology might help a fundamentally weak car. The answer is: not much. No wonder RC10 rule the world!!

[Shodog]

Tanker you just found out why the RC-10 dominated the racing scene way back in the day. It was just heads above the rest.

Funny though for such a great car its easy to buy and original for $30 on ebay and by comparision its almost impossible to touch a trashed SRB for under $100

[usapirap(2)]

RC10 may be heads above the rest while running but a SRB is heads above the rest standing still... perhaps that's why it's a collectible item and mush more sought after. []

[dannyboyz]

put the scorcher shell on the rc10 []

[Scorcher Champ]

I'll never understand that either. Alot of guys have been buying the re-issue Hornet, Grasshopper etc and paying ridiculous prices on ebay etc. for hop-up parts. These are cars that are for show or messing around. Even back in the day, they were not holding up very well against the competition, so against today's technology, they are useless for anything, but novelty.

I have seen people paying hundreds of dollars for the vintage aftermarket parts to drive these vintage cars when you can easily buy a high quality Team Associated, Traxxas etc for the same price or even less. It's insane! I tell ya... insane!!!... []

NOTE: If you are one of the people who do this, please do not take offense to what I said. It is all in good humor and you have the right to spend you hard earned money on whatever you want, including me... (Christmas is coming! [])

[Shodog]

I think people buy the reissue hornet more for nostalgia than anything.

Tanker, I have seen pics of your SRB and it's pretty sweet.

[tanker(2)]

Half of the fun was to find out how insane I have been :-)

SRB: I love them!!

RC10, I love them too.

[DJTheo]

I think the joy is in the challenge of making a inferior car go well, as well as hopping up the inferior car of your youth in which you were loosing races with all those hop ups you couldn't afford or didn't knew about them back then. I also enjoy hopping up and running a primitive Holiday Buggy for example... No really rational reasons, but isn't the whole collecting and vintage thing irrational too?

Cheers

[tanker(2)]

Yes, the whole silly thing is about trying to get a old SRB with no proper functional design concerns and tranform it into something drivable and/or hopefully good. My reason for hopping up the RR was simply I want to build that 'ideal' dream SRB. Got it done but was sort of taken aback because it seems that even with the best effort, it is absolutely no match with an old RC10.... Well, I love seeing it in my cupboard showcase though. It is a piece of Tamiya history and it is a piece of my childhood :-) it must be something acceptable, because even my wife did not complain :-)

[mud4fun]

LOL, 'SRB' and 'handling' are two words that don't fit together in the same sentance!!! The rear swingarms on the SRB are next to useless and the pronounced camber which results simply forces the tyres to bite on their shoulders and tip the car over. The stock rear torsion spring is also far to stiff.

I gave up trying to get my SRB to go fast (and still handle OK!!) so in the end I made a monster truck out of it. It handles much better as a monster truck than it did in stock form!!! The big pumpkin wheels/tyres give a much wider track and I converted the suspension all around to use the much underrated yellow CVA shocks and scrapped the stock torsion springs. I also added dual rate springs on the rear. The result is a lovely smooth ride over even rough ground. The kyosho mag meyhem motor I have in mine is perfectly suited to shift these heavy vehicles.

Oh, I also replaced my shell with a Lexan one which lowers the CoG, so even though my monster scorcher is much higher than a stock scorcher it has the same CoG. I guess if you stuck a lexan shell on a stock SRB you'd get some improvement in cornering with less rolls!

This is my 'improved' version of the sand scorcher using an SRB chassis:

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/getuserimage.asp...003183925_1.jpg

[DJTheo]

Yes, but who would want to make a MT from his SRB[8)] SRB is about scale realism, if you want a MT, any modern one is better. So for people who don't want to convert it to a MT, just replace the torsion bars in the back with softer ones, or even replace all of them with soft coil shocks all over (so the rear arms rest at horizontal position or even slight negative camber), almost no roll and improved handling is the result.

Cheers

[Neil G40]

Which coilover shocks are the best to use on the srb, I'm just in the middle of renovating mine.

[Stevenchat2000]

Mud4fun I love what you have done , but it would be nice with an original Scorcher shell on it .

[Toykid]

I am lucky enough to live near a beach here in CA. The first time I ran my SRB was in the sand. On the tramac or dirt SRB's aren't great, but I have to say that I was really pleased with the way it drove on the sand. They only hop I had was the CRP ball diff and that was just becasue the car came with it. I have to say the ball diff makes all the difference on the sand, without it the car has a tendancy to spin out in the corners, with the ball diff it is very easy to pull the perfect drifting turn. I agree the SRB will never be a super fast racer but for hitting the flat wet beach and driving through the sea I found the car perfect. I also happened to have my race spec RC10B4 to run on the same day and yes it was fast, handled great, but it just didn't feel as cool and there was no way to even consider getting it wet.

Just my 2 cents.

James.

[DJTheo]

On dry and soft sand I personally preffer the SRBs not having a diff as they don't stuck as easily as modern 2WDs, that's why I haven't mounted my ball diffs to my runners yet.

CHeers