Racing by post - Round 45 takes us to Anderstorp!

[Ferruz 11702]

Just managed to do a few more runs, albeit with the Hornet in total chill out mode while the Manta relaxed on the back seat for a change. I drove her as well today, but the Postal track has been all for the Hornet which also managed a personal best  driving it on wet grass with slick tires and a 15T motor really does keep me on edge! Surprisingly swift in the hairpin turns, if only it could go straight for a single meter!!! Lol

[Charles M 135]

 

[Charles M 135]

So great to run this Weekend with my XV01. I improve my times. 

But Freshly and fully charge my NIMH Battery is better for power ( and need to handle it ) , but for the second and third round, i make very good times too. 

I've finish my front Tires ( from AliExpress ) on the Rear, but now is too much oversteering ! 

I don't know if 4x4 need to have 4 sames tires. After some Boilling Bath, I remove the old tires, but i don't know if I make a mix of tires. 

Some advices ? 

 

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[Toad16v 282]

Had another two goes tonight, this time with my terra scorcher. Got about a 10% improvement. Not sure if it is the car/setup/tyres, familiarity with the track or I was just less rubbish. Need to try it again with my hornet now.

[Ferruz 11702]

Got a few more runs in yesterday and today. Both the Hornet and the Manta Ray improved their lap count, the Boss did same as before. Having the time to get accustomed to the track is great, I never had the chance to get so many runs in before and it sure makes a difference. I hope to try out another car or two before the round ends next weekend.

[Ferruz 11702]

Just realized I've forgotten to submit my cars' results 😅

@TurnipJF I've used the form you've provided (new to me) and it works great, thanks for doing this! I may have inadvertently submitted a result twice, if that's the case sorry about that lol

[TurnipJF 9192]

18 minutes ago, Ferruz said:

Just realized I've forgotten to submit my cars' results 😅

@TurnipJF I've used the form you've provided (new to me) and it works great, thanks for doing this! I may have inadvertently submitted a result twice, if that's the case sorry about that lol

Not a problem. I'll check for duplicates before I post the final outcome. 

[TurnipJF 9192]

Don't forget: Round 10 ends at midnight GMT on Sunday!

[Carmine A 2046]

Oh LORD!! 😲  I'm hoping to get out at least one more time. I only got out once.  I hope you have those results. It was at the beginning.

I'm buried chest deep into my latest Build! I've dreamt about a Tamiya Semi Truck since 1997.... and I feel it deserves my full attention. 😉

Doesn't mean that I'm not keeping an eye open for your Posts and Builds!! 👊✌

[MontyMole 81]

I've run my TT-02B, running a brushless motor and with some hop-ups, believing a more modern design would beat my results with my other car, a Terra Scorcher on a plain Torque Tuned. Well, I've been disproven: I wonder what are the precise factors (the motor might be one, maybe it's a bit too much), but seriously, it was not pleasant to drive. Maybe tomorrow I'll try with the same tyres in the same location with the other car, just to compare. Regarding tyres, by the way, they are the stock spiked you get with the TT-02B. Should I glue them? Are inserts required, or are just a nice plus given the tyre itself is quite hard already?

[nicksincrc 119]

My dad finally finished my new controller and I've been trying to change all my receivers but won't get it done so I'm hoping to submit something I can get done tomorrow ,fingers crossed 

[TurnipJF 9192]

1 hour ago, MontyMole said:

I've run my TT-02B, running a brushless motor and with some hop-ups, believing a more modern design would beat my results with my other car, a Terra Scorcher on a plain Torque Tuned. Well, I've been disproven: I wonder what are the precise factors (the motor might be one, maybe it's a bit too much), but seriously, it was not pleasant to drive. Maybe tomorrow I'll try with the same tyres in the same location with the other car, just to compare. Regarding tyres, by the way, they are the stock spiked you get with the TT-02B. Should I glue them? Are inserts required, or are just a nice plus given the tyre itself is quite hard already?

Interesting - I found my brushless TT-02B to be even quicker than my brushed Thundershot, which uses the same basic chassis as the Terra Scorcher as you probably know. Perhaps not as dramatic to watch as it lacked the body roll of the 'Shot, but certainly faster, both in a straight line and around the corners.

In my case both cars were running identical tyres and inserts on wheels that were identical apart from the colour. It will be interesting to read about your tests tomorrow with both cars on the same tyres.

I use glued aftermarket tyres on my cars for the postal races, but when using the stock ones for general driving, I typically don't glue them unless they try to part company with the rims or slip under acceleration. It makes it easier to clean them, dry them and eventually replace them if they wear out. I also typically don't bother with inserts because, as you say, the tyres seem quite hard enough to support themselves without them.

[TurnipJF 9192]

37 minutes ago, nicksincrc said:

My dad finally finished my new controller and I've been trying to change all my receivers but won't get it done so I'm hoping to submit something I can get done tomorrow ,fingers crossed 

Good luck! Hope you manage to get something submitted. If not, there is always next round!

[Toad16v 282]

1 hour ago, MontyMole said:

I've run my TT-02B, running a brushless motor and with some hop-ups, believing a more modern design would beat my results with my other car, a Terra Scorcher on a plain Torque Tuned. Well, I've been disproven: I wonder what are the precise factors (the motor might be one, maybe it's a bit too much), but seriously, it was not pleasant to drive. Maybe tomorrow I'll try with the same tyres in the same location with the other car, just to compare. Regarding tyres, by the way, they are the stock spiked you get with the TT-02B. Should I glue them? Are inserts required, or are just a nice plus given the tyre itself is quite hard already?

My Terra Scorcher with a Carson Cup Machine motor came out even with my Dark Impact with Sport tuned motor. Better tyres on the Dark Impact may have changed things a little, but I think it was too quick in a way, was difficult to get the speed down enough to get the turns. Might try the centre one way in the Dark Impact to see if the sharp cornering can be improved.

I guess the Terra Scorcher was a pretty solid design back in the day, and modern, cheaper designs might struggle to match it?

[MontyMole 81]

2 hours ago, Toad16v said:

My Terra Scorcher with a Carson Cup Machine motor came out even with my Dark Impact with Sport tuned motor. Better tyres on the Dark Impact may have changed things a little, but I think it was too quick in a way, was difficult to get the speed down enough to get the turns. Might try the centre one way in the Dark Impact to see if the sharp cornering can be improved.

I guess the Terra Scorcher was a pretty solid design back in the day, and modern, cheaper designs might struggle to match it?

I think it's just because my TT-02B, right now, it's a kind of a mess setup wise: sure, it's got FRP shock mounts, a brushless motor and universals, but the shocks are cheap rubbish and their length affected the camber and toe in adjustements I did back when I had the shorter shocks. Adjustments I never bothered to fix because I don't like to fiddle with Tamiya's turnbuckles, that little 5mm nut is a pain.

[c64orinoco 667]

I got some more runs in the evening. Our course is quite challenging with some quite bumpy surfaces. It only just fits in our back yard, with one end constrained by the wife's flower pots, the other end is close to the car-eating Hedge Of Death. I managed to improve my laps with the TT02B, beating the laps I did with the Comical Hornet. It would have been embarrasing for the TT02B to be beaten by the Comical. I even tried a few laps with the Lunch Box Mini, but it really struggled with the grass and just kept doing wheelies unless you where super-gentle with the throttle. Was fun to see it trundling about though, it was fairly stable when going downhill and managed to get a bit of speed up.  The last run with the Comical Hornet before it got too dark was cut short by the clothes line - I hit it hard enough to throw the steering out of whack, so that was it for the evening. Photo of track to show the awkward conditions, including the Hedge Of Death.

[Carmine A 2046]

14 hours ago, MontyMole said:

I've run my TT-02B, running a brushless motor and with some hop-ups, believing a more modern design would beat my results with my other car, a Terra Scorcher on a plain Torque Tuned. Well, I've been disproven: I wonder what are the precise factors (the motor might be one, maybe it's a bit too much), but seriously, it was not pleasant to drive. Maybe tomorrow I'll try with the same tyres in the same location with the other car, just to compare. Regarding tyres, by the way, they are the stock spiked you get with the TT-02B. Should I glue them? Are inserts required, or are just a nice plus given the tyre itself is quite hard already?

I'm feeling like I've underestimated the TT-02B! It's not the best Off-Road Buggy... But its disadvantage of poor ground clearance might make it excellent at Rally Type Racing! 😳

I may have to get one of those.

[TurnipJF 9192]

35 minutes ago, Carmine A said:

I'm feeling like I've underestimated the TT-02B! It's not the best Off-Road Buggy... But its disadvantage of poor ground clearance might make it excellent at Rally Type Racing! 😳

I may have to get one of those.

In stock form it isn't the most impressive model, but there are a great many upgrades available that allow one to address the majority of its shortcomings and turn it into a very effective postal racing weapon. Even with loads of upgrades, it isn't the greatest of jumpers due to its layout, but on courses with no jumps like those we race in the postals, it does very well indeed!

[Carmine A 2046]

30 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

In stock form it isn't the most impressive model, but there are a great many upgrades available that allow one to address the majority of its shortcomings and turn it into a very effective postal racing weapon. Even with loads of upgrades, it isn't the greatest of jumpers due to its layout, but on courses with no jumps like those we race in the postals, it does very well indeed!

I figured that it wasn't going to burn up the Track in Buggy competition.... But given its unique layout and low slung Chassis, it's got to be a winner on a flat Track!!

[MontyMole 81]

Welp, my testing to see if my lap counts with the Terra Scorcher were a fluke went belly up. First try with the Plasma Edge tyres, the car stopped presumably due to the ESC going in protection mode (the motor was quite hot). Fine, second try, same tyres, but the 15t pinion from the kit. Same thing. I guess the larger wheels, while cool looking, add strain to the motor. Last one, with the kit wheels, goes well until the lower mount pops off the shock shaft of one of the front dampers. Now I get why the bright yellow color, it does make easier to find the parts when they fly off. Now I fixed It, and put a drop of thread lock just in case, but I hope it's not an issue with the thread inside the mount getting worn. I wonder if I can repurpose the CVAs from my TT-02B worst comes worst; I think with the shorter mount they are quite similar in length?

Oh, well, all and all, it has been a learning experience.

[Ferruz 11702]

I just got my first real driving experience at the "wheel" of my vintage Edinger RC10.

Wow, just WOW!

The car is a thrill to drive, almost addictive. After 5 minutes it felt like I've always driven it, so intuitive. And that dramatic body roll while cornering... I'm in love .

Rims and tires aside, the car is in absolute stock configuration. The old AE offroad stock motor definitely feels quite... sleepy, and a hotter one will be a must now that the car is finally active. I think I'll try to find a vintage 19T or something, to keep it more or less period correct.

Anyway, even in stock configuration, with a motor that has likely fought his big battles before I was even born, the RC10 won over the Hornet by 4 solid laps, with only a fraction of the power. I know I shouldn't even dream of comparing those two cars, but that's also why it's fun: one all handling and no power, the other NO handling and overpowered 🤪

Also, worth noting, the RC10's best result is only 7 laps under my super hopped up Manta Ray. It will be very interesting to see what this car will be able to do with modern electronics and a hotter motor.

Anyway, good luck to everybody for the last few hours of this round! Have fun

[El Gecko 1344]

Somehow I managed to actually participate this time (which meets my personal challenge, just barely), except with a Traxxas and on bumpy grass instead of smooth, predictable tarmac...

I won't go into the racer's excuses, but for many reasons the Hawk buggy was the only car I was able to drive this round (not that that's a bad thing)

It's wearing the same tires that were on the Blackfoot when we last did this course in Round 6, but due to the better chassis layout and more confident handling, it managed to nearly match the Blackfoot's tarmac result!

It's so much fun to slide this car around, and the "fast" battery makes a big difference... never seen wheelies from it before! (the far pic is a jump due to an "abrupt" tuft of grass)

[TurnipJF 9192]

Thanks to all who entered - I'll get the results posted shortly.

 

In the meantime, please start thinking about the track layout that you'd like to see for the next round. The winner gets to choose the layout, but everyone is encouraged to submit suggestions from which the choice can be made.

[TurnipJF 9192]

Position:	Username:	Laps:	Car:	Motor:	Battery:	Surface:	Modifiers:	Weight (optional):	Fastest lap (optional):
1	TurnipJF	49	TT-02 Type S	13.5t Speed Passion	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
2	TurnipJF	49	TT-02B Neo Scorcher	13.5t Speed Passion	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
3	TurnipJF	48	F103RS "W" body	21.5t Trackstar	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
4	TurnipJF	47	M-08 Mazda MX-5	13.5t Speed Passion	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
5	Carmine A	47	FF-03 Pro Civic	15T Reedy Brushed	3S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.	1334g	6.10 seconds
6	Charlesmerlen	46	XV01	Super Stock TZ	7.2V NiMH	Tarmac	Little Bit Dusty		6.08s
7	TurnipJF	45	DT-02 Desert Gator	13.5t Bluebottle	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
8	TurnipJF	45	DT-03T Aqroshot	10.5t Speed Passion	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
9	Carmine A	45	TT-02S SM RRRR GT4 Mustang	17T Reedy Brushed	3S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.	1531g	6.34 seconds
10	TurnipJF	43	TT-01 Evo VI Rally	13.5t Bluebottle	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
11	Ferruz	41	DF01 Manta Ray	13.5T Bluebottle	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was damp.		7.06 s
12	Maelstrom	37	TT-02 Petronas MB SLS	25t Torque Tuned	7.2V NiMH	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry., slope
13	Ministrone	36	Tamiya Mini Cooper M-01	540 Silver can	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
14	Maelstrom	36	TA-04 Loctite Zexel GT-R	25t GT Tuned	7.2V NiMH	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry., slope
15	MontyMole	34	Terra Scorcher	25t Torque Tuned	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was sandy.
16	Toad16v	34	Terra Scorcher	25T Carson Cup motor	7.2V NiMH	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.	1560
17	Toad16v	34	Df03 Dark impact	23T sport tuned	7.2V NiMH	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.	1624
18	Ferruz	34	Team Associated RC10	Associated Off-Road Stock	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was wet.
19	Ministrone	33	Tamiya Avante	25t GT Tuned	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
20	nicksincrc	32	mardave street 10, protoform ms7	21t silver can	4.8v Nimh	Tarmac	dusty
21	Ferruz	30	Hornet	15T HPI Firebolt	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was damp.
22	MontyMole	29	TT-02B Plasma Edge 2	Hobbywing XERUN Justock 13.5T Brushless Sensored	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was sandy.
23	c64orinoco	29	TT02B Neo Scorcher	17.5T Brushless Tamiya TBML-02	7.2V NiMH	Grass	medium grass length, 0.5m crossfall, concrete paths, Hedge Of Death at one end.
24	Ferruz	28	Kyosho Big Boss car crusher	Kyosho Le Mans 05 stock	7.2V NiMH	Grass	It was damp.
25	El Gecko	28	Traxxas Hawk buggy	Slot Machine	7.2V NiMH	Grass	Very rough/bumpy ground	1843
26	Maelstrom	28	DT-02 Desert Gator	25t Torque Tuned	7.2V NiMH	Grass	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
27	CharlesMerlen	28	DT03 Racing Fighter	25t Torque Tuned	7.2V NiMH	Grass	With Jump after the Half Turn
28	TurnipJF	27	TT-01D Silvia S15	13.5t Bluebottle	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
29	c64orinoco	24	Comical Hornet	silver can	7.2V NiMH	Grass	bumpy tufts of grass
30	TurnipJF	23	WR-02CB Farm King	27t Silver Can	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.
31	c64orinoco	21	TT02B Neo Scorcher	17t brushless	7.2V NiMH	Grass / concrete	Very bumpy track with Hedge of Death at one end.
32	TurnipJF	20	CC-01 Mitsubishi Pajero Metaltop Wide	55t Etronix	2S LiPo	Tarmac	No - the track surface was clear and dry.

[Charles M 135]

**** i forgot to send my Results  :-(

 

[EDIT] Just send my Results with XV01 and DT03.