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With the Coronapocalypse showing no sign of going away any time soon, I have been thinking about ways in which we can continue to enjoy as many aspects of the hobby/sport as possible. One thought I had, inspired by a long-standing contest between RC glider pilots, is the postal contest.

The idea in RC gliding circles is for clubs and individuals to fly at their local fields, but all following the same set of rules, and to submit their times to a central point for collation. Nowadays it is all done electronically, but back in the day the results were sent in by post, hence the name.

Obviously there is the potential to cheat, and there are also local variations in weather that affect results, but for a bit of fun it works rather well.

I was thinking it might be fun to take this format and transfer it to RC cars. We come up with a compact track layout that people can mark out with a few cones on their nearest area of driveable tarmac, each person (or group of no more than 6) sees how many laps they can do in the agreed time, and submits their results to a central point, such as a thread on this here forum. People might even want to submit best and average lap times, easily measured with a smartphone and the free Laptrax app.

If it proves popular, we might come up with a new track layout each month, have categories for different car classes as in the speedrun thread, etc.

Anyone fancy giving it a go?

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I''m in. I agree with @Wetman about having different classes. I personally think that we should have it open for all makes, but I'll leave it to @TurnipJF since it was their idea. Some initial thoughts off the top of my head on classes:

Stock Touring car: Any touring chassis, Sealed-can motor, 6-cell Nimh/2s Lipo Max

Mod touring: any touring, no restrictions on motor or battery

Monster Truck: Lunchbox, Blackfoot, Clod, Stampede, etc. More power would probably work against you so I don't see the need for many restrictions here

Buggy/Stadium truck

F1/Pan Car: Maybe separate classes for foam and rubber tires?

1/8+ : For those of us who have larger vehicles 

Crawler: Just for kicks and giggles

Open: No rules, whatever goes 

I also think a WTH class would be fun as well (Dancing rider, Micros, Crazy homebrew projects )

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SupraChrgd82 said:

Since it's all for the purpose if amusement, I'm in for "run whatcha brung"

I would prefer this. Just keep it simple. No classes, no prizes beyond bragging rights, and if you want to claim the title of "Fastest Stock Grasshopper" and someone wants to try to best you, more (RS380) power to them. Besides, if the tracks are sized for typical driveways or back yards, no one will get going very fast anyway, so big power is useless.

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Great idea!!!💡 

I live in an Apartment Complex, so marking out a Circuit might be difficult (especially with my NAZI Slumlords).... 

But I'm absolutely going to observe from the sidelines, at least until I can figure out how to get away with it. 😜  If able, it would be my first "International Competition"!! 👍👍💯🏁

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1 hour ago, markbt73 said:

I would prefer this. Just keep it simple. No classes, no prizes beyond bragging rights, and if you want to claim the title of "Fastest Stock Grasshopper" and someone wants to try to best you, more (RS380) power to them. Besides, if the tracks are sized for typical driveways or back yards, no one will get going very fast anyway, so big power is useless.

Yup, racetrack photos being the only requirement. 

I want to see pictures of racing machines, upside-down crawlers, cones wedged in bumpers, comicals doing wheelies on the back straight, poo in @•Axle's swingarms,  @Bennett Ironman's bruised toes, @Saito2's ThunderShotterBoomerCar, @Carmine A's superglued fingertips,  and @ACCEL' s submarine doing a victory lap. 

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@SupraChrgd82 - have you heard about me??? 😜😂😂  LMAO!

Okay, I've got a Warsh (as Midwestern people say), some rocky areas and at least 3 quite competent Crawlers - if we're also going that route... 

I agree with not making this a prize based thing. Let's keep it pure, and all about fun and bragging rights. 

I've done enough Trophy Racing in the 80's and 90's.

BIG PROBLEM! While speed testing my M05 earlier today, I decided to do a flyby with the GoPro 5 on the ground.... I ran smackdamn into it at almost 40mph - and DESTROYED it!! 😭😭😭

I have no chance of getting another - even used one till next year at least. 😖😞 I don't know where that's going to put me. My Phone Camera takes nice close pictures, but the VIDEO is PANTS!! (As my English friends would say) 

Guess I'm back to observer for awhile... but I'm still behind this great idea!

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I had an idea during the commute home...

a) Track size is limited to maximum 6 meters by 4 meters (smaller is OK) in order to keep the "contest" accessible to everyone in lockdown.

b) Substrate is the contestant's choice as long as they follow the chosen layout (asphalt, grass, sand, your kid's bedroom, etc)

c) The winner from 1 week picks the track layout and criteria for winning the next week ( best lap time, longest wheelie, shortest skirt, classiest tie, etc) 

d) Based on the photos contestants take during the weekly race, winner from above picks the next week's winner, but you can't pick yourself

e) The "winner" is declared on Monday and the next round starts

 

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Great stuff! It looks like we have enough interest to make a go of this.

The suggestion of keeping the tracks small is a good one. 6m X 5m is tight, but not impossible. I think we might have some tracks that are really tight and technical, suitable for garden use, and some longer, narrower ones suitable for a quiet street or after-hours parking area. I also think we should alternate between them, so if one round's track layout doesn't suit your available space, the next one should do.

Keeping it all one class "run watcha brung" is a nice inclusive way of doing things. However I would ask that people submit their chassis, motor and running surface details when they submit their results, so that these can be shared. That way, if you want to see if you have the fastest 13.5t TT-01 on tarmac, or the fastest stock 380 Grasshopper on grass, you can do so.

The idea of a novelty aspect sounds like fun! However I don't think this would appeal to everyone. I therefore think that we should run this alongside the more serious (but still just for fun) racing aspect. The winner of the novelty category can have the honour of choosing the criteria for the next round's novelty category. Some criteria might be best judged on numbers, eg, longest wheelie, whereas others might be best done by voting, eg hairiest legs or whatever. The chooser of the criteria can also choose how it should be judged.

Another point - I think the results should be submitted via PM. One of the more exciting parts of postal contests is that you don't know how you have faired relative to other entrants until the results are collated and announced. We can preserve this here by having the results submitted privately, then collated and posted in one list which becomes visible to everyone simultaneously.

I was thinking that a round should last two weeks, thus giving everyone a bit more time to get an entry in, and a bit more flexibility to work around weather, family commitments, etc. During this time you can submit as many results as you like, so you can run different cars, try different setups, and if you think you can improve on a time already submitted, you can do so. Only your best result per chassis will be retained though, so for example if you run your TT-01 three times, only the top result will show, but if you run your TT-01, Grasshopper and XV-01 once each, all three results will show.

For the racing bit, the key result will be how many laps you can do in 5 minutes. Thus to compete all you need is your car, an area to run it, and a stopwatch or timer. If you have a timing app or a transponder setup, feel free to use it and post your average and fastest lap times, but these will be purely for interest and not required for competition success.

I will get a track layout measured up and posted later this afternoon. Then let's get racing!

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This is completely exciting!!! IMG_20190823_230351.thumb.jpg.1698513d1ebbc74e99c51e9a6d77d261.jpg

Question - is there more than a passing interest in Scale Trucks? 514316869_SCX10II48.thumb.jpg.32c2322718146d4a4b463753d2ffa0bd.jpg

Like.... SCX10, TRX-4, Redcat Gen 7/8, Element Sendero...? 

Now, there's NOTHING small or compact about Crawler Stages! 😲  BUT, what about something LUDICROUS like Racing a Crawler Truck on one of your Car Track designs!!? 😂 

Not entirely kidding. Since these are typically limited to around 10-12mph, and have the Center of Gravity of a FLAGPOLE, they could provide a measure of Driver skill - and an element of Comedy!!

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Love this, it would be great if there was some sort of grid layout phone app 6x5m drawn up as a grid, place your corner / jump etc in that square.

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29 minutes ago, Carmine A said:

This is completely exciting!!! 

Question - is there more than a passing interest in Scale Trucks? Like.... SCX10, TRX-4, Redcat Gen 7/8, Element Sendero...? 

Now, there's NOTHING small or compact about Crawler Stages! 😲  BUT, what about something LUDICROUS like Racing a Crawler Truck on one of your Car Track designs!!? 😂 

Not entirely kidding. Since these are typically limited to around 10-12mph, and have the Center of Gravity of a FLAGPOLE, they could provide a measure of Driver skill - and an element of Comedy!!

Well, there is nothing stopping you from running one of your scalers around the track and seeing how many laps you can do. I also suspect that the terrain-conquering abilities of a scaler might come in handy for some of the novelty challenges too.

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Here we go ladies, gentlemen and others:

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Mark out the above layout on the surface of your choice, and let me know via PM how many laps you can do in 5 minutes! (When the 5-minute mark is reached, finish the lap you are on and submit that as your total.)

Please use the following template for your submissions:

 

Total laps:

Chassis:

Motor/battery:

Track surface:

Fastest lap (optional):

 

Results will be collated and announced in two weeks on Monday the 28th.

 

And @SupraChrgd82 since you suggested the novelty aspect, you can have the honour of choosing the criteria for the first novelty challenge. What would you like it to be, and how would you like it to be judged?

(Edited to show @markbt73's better rendering of the layout.)

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Just to be clear........ 

Are we to PM you the results first, or PM them only?  (I suppose PM only would prevent some numbers from being "altered") 😜 

Do the Vehicle/Track Specs get posted here, or also by PM? 

And the Track Stage seems simple enough.... 4X5M Figure-8.... But DANG those Turns are SHARP!!! 😜😂LMAO😄😜

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43 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

Here we go ladies, gentlemen and others:

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Mark out the above layout on the surface of your choice, and let me know via PM how many laps you can do in 5 minutes! (When the 5-minute mark is reached, finish the lap you are on and submit that as your total.)

Please use the following template for your submissions:

 

Total laps:

Chassis:

Motor/battery:

Track surface:

Fastest lap (optional):

 

Results will be collated and announced in two weeks on Monday the 28th.

 

And @SupraChrgd82 since you suggested the novelty aspect, you can have the honour of choosing the criteria for the first novelty challenge. What would you like it to be, and how would you like it to be judged?

I think you denoted the criteria as "most laps in 5 minutes".  I'm in! 

Due to my lousy driving skills, I shall attempt to endure the entire 5 minutes without crashing into my own feet or breaking my car.

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