Old Falcon Lad ll 4 Posted February 7, 2021 Hi all, I've an old hotshot 1 that I bought intending to restore about 10 years ago. The main issue I saw was it was missing one of the front drive shafts (76mm). Is there anyway I can find a replacement / substitute in another part to fix? 10 years back I know these were hard to find but hoping things have moved on. Grimy pic attached. Thanks, P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadInventor 3884 Posted February 7, 2021 Short answer, I don't think so. The re-release hotshot uses different size drive cups, so re-re drive shafts are not compatible unless to replace the drive cups and front axles as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Falcon Lad ll 4 Posted February 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, MadInventor said: Short answer, I don't think so. The re-release hotshot uses different size drive cups, so re-re drive shafts are not compatible unless to replace the drive cups and front axles as well. OK thanks MadInventor. So what would be the parts list I'd need if I had to use re re shafts if you don't mind me asking? Please direct me to other threads, others must have encountered the same issues I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadInventor 3884 Posted February 8, 2021 22 hours ago, Old Falcon Lad ll said: OK thanks MadInventor. So what would be the parts list I'd need if I had to use re re shafts if you don't mind me asking? Please direct me to other threads, others must have encountered the same issues I guess. Hotshot is a real problem as far as front drive shafts are concerned. The 'easy' option would be to fit a set of CVDs, but no one seems to be able to agree on what fits and what doesn't. Then there's the question of front hubs. If you upgrade to the newer re-re / hotshot 2 hubs, they apparently give a bit more clearance and you can get away with using top force drive shafts and drive cups, this is what I did with my super sabre. Id you stick with the original hubs then the only option I can see is new front drive shafts, a pair of new front axles, and a pair of new front drive cups (Although i don't know if re-re drive cups can be used effectively with original gearbox casings) I don't want to commit to a parts list, as the gearbox sides are subtly different on the re-re hotshot to the original, so I don't even know if the re-re shafts and drive cups / axles can be used with an original gearbox. @Wandy has an encyclopaedic knowledge of all things hotshot, hopefully he will chime in and offer you some advice on this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korreka 43 Posted February 8, 2021 Look at Hsp 08060 dogbones (77mm): aliexpress.com/item/32624056216.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saito2 6573 Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 11:42 AM, Old Falcon Lad ll said: So what would be the parts list I'd need if I had to use re re shafts if you don't mind me asking? Please direct me to other threads, others must have encountered the same issues I guess. 4 hours ago, MadInventor said: I don't want to commit to a parts list, as the gearbox sides are subtly different on the re-re hotshot to the original, so I don't even know if the re-re shafts and drive cups / axles can be used with an original gearbox It is my recollection that the re-release gearbox halves are ever so slightly different in the bearing area. The original Hotshot's drivecups/outputs used those miserable, tiny C-clips, while the re-releases uses larger E-clips. I'm pretty sure Tamiya altered the molding (bearing depth, IIRC) to allow room for the larger E-clips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cephas 529 Posted February 8, 2021 Is this what you need 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Falcon Lad ll 4 Posted February 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Cephas said: Is this what you need Hi, and thanks all for the replies. This looks similar and appears to be the right length but lacks the same radial markings on the shaft - does this matter? Any ideas what kit this item came with? Vagueley considering selling what I have and putting money into a re-re! Cheers, P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wandy 1526 Posted February 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, Old Falcon Lad ll said: Hi, and thanks all for the replies. This looks similar and appears to be the right length but lacks the same radial markings on the shaft - does this matter? Any ideas what kit this item came with? Vagueley considering selling what I have and putting money into a re-re! Cheers, P. Quite unusual to see an original Hotshot driveshaft without the engraved lines at each end. I wonder if this is an aftermarket copy of some kind? Most original examples had two engraved lines at each end of the tube, but the very early examples had one engraved line at each end. I have never seen an example with no lines at all. You could use vintage Supershot or Hotshot 2 front driveshafts if aesthetics isnt an issue to you? Not sure if re-re driveshafts can be used in conjunction with vintage drivecups as it's not something I have ever tried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cephas 529 Posted February 9, 2021 It came with a boomerang I restored, seemed to have some hotshot parts mixed in that I didn’t use. Not 100% sure what it’s fro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Falcon Lad ll 4 Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cephas said: It came with a boomerang I restored, seemed to have some hotshot parts mixed in that I didn’t use. Not 100% sure what it’s fro If its spare then I might be interested. Not sure how trades work here, perhaps PM me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exit13 673 Posted February 9, 2021 My vintage boomerang seems to have the same shafts as the hot shot. Out of all my cars from the 80’s I am having the hardest time recalling the boomerang. Seems to be mixed with hot shot parts too. like the red axle housings 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites