Tamiya Quick Drive 1:10 upgrades needed

[hnatski 0]

Hi I brought a Tamiya  1:10 Quick drive Ford Focus 2001 car and remote off eBay, and all working fine, but since it’s been in a loft for  20 years (previous owner), I have bought a new battery, but wondered if there were other “parts that could be upgraded” , 

would like to convert from 2wd to 4wd and upgrade the motor and suspension etc to give it a new lease of life for when the RC clubs start up again

 

i hope someone can help
 

[wolfdogstinkus 2063]

Not exactly the same as your chassis but may provide inspiration?

I did manage a 44mph run before this happened.

 

[Fabia130vRS 2098]

1 hour ago, hnatski said:

Hi I brought a Tamiya  1:10 Quick drive Ford Focus 2001 car and remote off eBay, and all working fine, but since it’s been in a loft for  20 years (previous owner), I have bought a new battery, but wondered if there were other “parts that could be upgraded” , 

would like to convert from 2wd to 4wd and upgrade the motor and suspension etc to give it a new lease of life for when the RC clubs start up again

 

i hope someone can help
 

I have one on ebay for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/402751783755

I am not sure there are any upgrades available, lets say the QD is a toy grade chassis.

 

as I found out the toy manufacturer Nikko had a similar model.

you can upgrade to brushless as mentioned above...

or go old school with it and buy a normal brushed esc with 2.4ghz transmitter, rewind the motor with thicker copper wire to let through the bigger power of a 60A esc. If you know yourself or somebody to rewind brushed motors.

The servo tray fits any standard size servoc so its up to your choice.

Tire can be upgraded with any 24-26mm touring tires. Rims are specific for model, with ball bearings in front and the rear has axles like a DT01. The adapters to fit are molded into the rear rims.

not much you can do without cutting or drilling I must say.

 

also I am not 100% sure but considering width and wheel base... this body should eventually fit? If it is not too low.

200mm wide

237mm Wb

[hnatski 0]

Hi thanks for the message, I’ve got my grandfather to Gaea look at it as the steering is slightly off too, rebuilding the motor to increase the speed would be great!

any how to videos would be great!

[Fabia130vRS 2098]

I bet there are video of how to wind a brushed motor.

 

this guy has a nice video how he does it for a rc boat

 

[TurnipJF 10941]

On 3/18/2021 at 10:08 AM, hnatski said:

Hi I brought a Tamiya  1:10 Quick drive Ford Focus 2001 car and remote off eBay, and all working fine, but since it’s been in a loft for  20 years (previous owner), I have bought a new battery, but wondered if there were other “parts that could be upgraded” , 

would like to convert from 2wd to 4wd and upgrade the motor and suspension etc to give it a new lease of life for when the RC clubs start up again

i hope someone can help
 

The paragraph in bold concerns me a little. While bearings, tyres and upgraded electronics will undoubtedly improve the car's performance relative to that of a stock QD, it will still have a very hard time keeping up with even the most basic hobby-grade 1/10 touring cars likely to be encountered at a club. The 1/10 TC QD suspension system is much like that of a Grasshopper, undamped, with single wishbones at the front that give massive camber change under compression and a pivoting motor/gearbox pod at the back with no toe or twist. Even with the best electronics, grippiest tyres and smoothest bearings, you will be at a significant handling disadvantage.

I am sure that this can be improved with a multitude of custom 3D-printed parts to give it a full double-wishbone setup all round, 4WD, the ability to mount proper dampers, etc, and this might make for a fun project if this is your thing, However if you are looking for a bolt-on solution, you might want to consider a complete chassis swap. You can pick up the bare bones of a TT-01 or TT-02 chassis as a so-called "bagged kit" minus body, box and other unnecessary bits to reduce costs, fit your upgraded electronics to this, top it with the shell that came with your QD, and have a 4WD double-wishbone chassis that can take a multitude of bolt-on upgrades and would not be out of place at a club.

Such a solution would be more robust, a lot easier and probably a whole lot cheaper than designing a full suspension and drivetrain conversion and having it 3D-printed. However if you do go down the 3D-printed route, please chronicle your progress! It would be a hugely ambitious project, but an interesting one to watch.

[TurnipJF 10941]

This would be a good starting point for example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TAMIYA-TT01E-RAW-CHASSIS-KIT-ALL-NEW-PARTS-BNIP-UK-FAST-POST-/254912834868

[Fabia130vRS 2098]

On 3/21/2021 at 2:37 PM, TurnipJF said:

The paragraph in bold concerns me a little. While bearings, tyres and upgraded electronics will undoubtedly improve the car's performance.

 

top it with the shell that came with your QD, and have a 4WD double-wishbone chassis that can take a multitude of bolt-on upgrades and would not be out of place at a club

Not that it actually would fit... I guess.

 

the QD has a 237mm wheelbase and the TT01 comes shortest at 251mm?

there is a guy that cut out lots of plastic in the front to add a gear diff with belt to the front also installed a motor somewhere in the front. Its almost terrifying to have a look at it. Haha  

 

if you rear the comments... it’s mentioning the Nikko QD gearbox would fit and uses a 380 motor instead the 280 Tamiya does.

 

[TurnipJF 10941]

3 hours ago, Fabia130vRS said:

Not that it actually would fit... I guess.

 

the QD has a 237mm wheelbase and the TT01 comes shortest at 251mm?

there is a guy that cut out lots of plastic in the front to add a gear diff with belt to the front also installed a motor somewhere in the front. Its almost terrifying to have a look at it. Haha  

 

if you rear the comments... it’s mentioning the Nikko QD gearbox would fit and uses a 380 motor instead the 280 Tamiya does.

The OP mentions having purchased a 1/10 QD Ford Focus. The 1/10 QD touring chassis has an adjustable wheelbase which in Ford Focus configuration is a full 257mm, as it uses the same body moulding as Tamiya's other RC Ford Focus models.

The shell will therefore fit a TT-01 or any other standard 257mm X 190mm touring car chassis without difficulty. Even the screw holes in the bonnet line up with the standard TT front body post locations, and the aerial hole at the back lines up with one of the rear body posts. All he needs to do to mount the shell is ream out the two front screw holes to take body posts, drill a second rear post hole and cover up the two rear screw holes which is easily done as they exit through the rear window and can be hidden with two small pieces of black tape.

[Fabia130vRS 2098]

33 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

The OP mentions having purchased a 1/10 QD Ford Focus. The 1/10 QD touring chassis has an adjustable wheelbase which in Ford Focus configuration is a full 257mm, as it uses the same body moulding as Tamiya's other RC Ford Focus models.

The shell will therefore fit a TT-01 or any other standard 257mm X 190mm touring car chassis without difficulty. Even the screw holes in the bonnet line up with the standard TT front body post locations, and the aerial hole at the back lines up with one of the rear body posts. All he needs to do to mount the shell is ream out the two front screw holes to take body posts, drill a second rear post hole and cover up the two rear screw holes which is easily done as they exit through the rear window and can be hidden with two small pieces of black tape.

How do you adjust the wheelbase?

 

I guess you turn around the front arms?

[TurnipJF 10941]

22 minutes ago, Fabia130vRS said:

How do you adjust the wheelbase?

The system is not unlike that used on the M-08, with the front and rear of the chassis moulded in two separate pieces. If you remove the screws holding them together, you'll see that the two halves can be slid apart, revealing more sets of screw holes that allow you to reattach the two chassis pieces at different wheelbase settings. 

You may be able to make further adjustments by flipping the front arms - I don't know as I haven't tried that. The options available by adjusting the chassis itself were fine for our needs. 

[TurnipJF 10941]

The photo below shows two examples:

The purple S2000 in the foreground is a 257mm HPI moulding mounted on a 1/10 QD chassis which originally came with the Ford Focus shell in the background. The Focus shell is now fitted to a TL-01 chassis which shares its track, wheelbase and body post locations with the TT I recommended in my earlier post. 

[Fabia130vRS 2098]

42 minutes ago, TurnipJF said:

The system is not unlike that used on the M-08, with the front and rear of the chassis moulded in two separate pieces. If you remove the screws holding them together, you'll see that the two halves can be slid apart, revealing more sets of screw holes that allow you to reattach the two chassis pieces at different wheelbase settings. 

You may be able to make further adjustments by flipping the front arms - I don't know as I haven't tried that. The options available by adjusting the chassis itself were fine for our needs. 

Oh I have noticed that. Thanks for letting me know.

I was wondering why does the bumper and chassis has holes that are not used hah