Cynan 520 Posted June 27, 2021 My plan would be to leave a good sized battery in with a suitable extension cable to make connection to a charger more accessible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 3662 Posted June 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Howards said: Is the thinking here that the battery should be LiFe and it just lives in the car? That is the likely logic behind this. LiFe batteries require little to no maintenance and have almost no issues with fire etc. You could install one semi-permanently in a car and never worry about it. Someone mentioned “Beta vs VHS” earlier. It should be noted that the Japanese stuck with Beta while the rest of the world went VHS. The same was true with MiniDisc and probably a million other things. I’m sure they are looking at us wondering why we would use LiPo… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuijo 880 Posted June 27, 2021 Yeah, there's no way I'd ever charge a LiPo in the car. I'd be happy to use LiFe if I could get my hands on one of the larger 2200mAh Tamiya batteries, and just use a higher kv motor to compensate for the lower voltage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aerobert 2149 Posted June 27, 2021 I think Tamiya ignore LiPo batteries as they are to complex to handle. I know that the chargers are better and easier to handle but I think Tamiya is a kind of family company which produces products not only for adults but also for children. And for example the kids of my brother which already have get some Tamiya RC cars from me won't ever discharge a LiPo battery if they don't have use it or load it for storage. And so these batteries could get dangerous in kids hands. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 3662 Posted June 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fuijo said: Yeah, there's no way I'd ever charge a LiPo in the car. I'd be happy to use LiFe if I could get my hands on one of the larger 2200mAh Tamiya batteries, and just use a higher kv motor to compensate for the lower voltage. Yeah, I can’t justify the cost of LiFe when LiPo is a third of the price. I charge my batteries outside on the driveway so I have minimal risk in that respect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howards 457 Posted June 27, 2021 Would have been interesting if: it ships with a 2k-4k mah LiFe battery it has a port on the chassis that connects directly to a charger so it can be charged without even having to remove the shell or a snap pin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 3662 Posted June 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aerobert said: I think Tamiya ignore LiPo batteries as they are to complex to handle. I know that the chargers are better and easier to handle but I think Tamiya is a kind of family company which produces products not only for adults but also for children. And for example the kids of my brother which already have get some Tamiya RC cars from me won't ever discharge a LiPo battery if they don't have use it or load it for storage. And so these batteries could get dangerous in kids hands. LOL! I wouldn’t put it past the Japanese to actively avoid LiPo altogether bc if the risk of fire. I have to think the average Japanese person lives in an apartment building or a wooden and shoji paper house. Fire would be a huge disaster. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wooders28 4723 Posted June 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Frog Jumper said: LOL! I wouldn’t put it past the Japanese to actively avoid LiPo altogether bc if the risk of fire. I have to think the average Japanese person lives in an apartment building or a wooden and shoji paper house. Fire would be a huge disaster. Kyosho are Japanese too, and they have allowance for lipo , their race cars are purely set up for shortys, although their re release all have Nimh in the pics (except the Ultima?) I just don't get why Tamiya won't cater for lipo (although the tble04s has lipo cut off?) , but even running other chemistry, it'll be a nightmare to change the battery in the TD4, plus having to disconnect major components can't be a good thing. Would I buy one though....if the price is right 🙄😁 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuggyGuy 1106 Posted June 27, 2021 I think the newer stuff does cater for Lipo? M07, TC01, and CC02 have all been fine (only modern kits I've handled though). I don't remember it being an issue in my TT02 either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wooders28 4723 Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, BuggyGuy said: I think the newer stuff does cater for Lipo? M07, TC01, and CC02 have all been fine (only modern kits I've handled though). I don't remember it being an issue in my TT02 either I'm not sure of the On-road stuff, (seemingly the Tamiya On Road race cars are quite good?) I should have added - Off road cars . Don't get me wrong, I run lipos in all mine, but the stock kits came with the tble02s, which isn't lipo friendly in stock form (yes you can modify them etc etc, although I just sold them NIP and got a hobbywing...). Some of the cars I've had to modify to run lipos, no doubt you can cut a hole in the bottom of the TD4, and 3d print a door, but Tamiya just seem to be against lipos 🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raman36 1657 Posted June 27, 2021 Anyone here have an F1 car that they race? 99% of them require removal of at least 2 screws to get the battery in. The only one I have seen that is difference is the serpent which goes in from the bottom. For race day, I put my LiPo battery in, charge it through out the day and end of the day, remove it. Same will go for this. You run it, charge it and at the end of the day, remove the screws to store battery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wooders28 4723 Posted June 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Raman36 said: For race day, I put my LiPo battery in, charge it through out the day and end of the day, remove it. You put the whole car in a charge bag to charge it? (Even though charging a lipo in a car, is still classed as a big no no) You get thrown out of clubs for not charging in a charge bag (uk brca rules anyway) "Charging batteries in LiPo sacks is strongly recommended, at any BRCA event or affiliated clubs it is MANDATORY to use a lipo sack." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frog Jumper 3662 Posted June 27, 2021 “Top Dollar” indeed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannymulder 766 Posted June 27, 2021 20 hours ago, Raman36 said: For race day, I put my LiPo battery in, charge it through out the day and end of the day, remove it. Same will go for this. You run it, charge it and at the end of the day, remove the screws to store battery. You only forget 1 thing most of the people that want to buy it do not race there cars, and only run them for fun, always run 2 packs true my cars when I take them out. And this is not an high spec race car. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert5000 928 Posted June 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, Frog Jumper said: “Top Dollar” indeed Isn’t the msrp listed on tamiyausa.com usually about double of what a kit actually goes for? If the same logic applies here I quite like the price. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTodd 1350 Posted June 27, 2021 The body is hideous but Im hopeful!!!! Its a new chassis, the front arms look to be of modern materials and the front arms have mounting provisions for real shocks. Hopefully this is an actual new chassi with new ball and gear differential options, slipper clutch etc. Why on earth did they use the old top force wheels?????? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tamiya3speed 464 Posted June 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, Robert5000 said: Isn’t the msrp listed on tamiyausa.com usually about double of what a kit actually goes for? If the same logic applies here I quite like the price. Quick check between MSRP of Knight Hauler, Frog, and Top Force Evo vs listed price at Tower suggests listed sale price at Tower is about 70% of MSRP. Calculates to a listed price on Tower in the $314 range. If it plays out that way and discounts are able to be used, I'm in. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RC4x4 142 Posted June 27, 2021 This looks very interesting and very good. I like the fenders. The colors look good too. The driver is a must and maybe add some lights? Getting the battery in and out is awkward. I will be getting one to run from time to time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jon 684 Posted June 27, 2021 With that MSRP, it'll street around $300. This will be a hit for Tamiya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich 685 Posted June 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Big Jon said: With that MSRP, it'll street around $300. This will be a hit for Tamiya. Yeah, I think that's a reasonable guess. I'm going with $319. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert5000 928 Posted June 28, 2021 According to Mokei Kagaku some more hop ups have been confirmed: 22028 TD4 Assembly Universal Shafts (2 Pcs.) 22029 TD4 Differential Nut and Screw Set 22030 TD4 Aluminum Servo Stay 22031 TD4 Slipper Clutch Set 51674 TD4 C-Parts (Uprights) (2 Pcs.) 51675 TD4 D-Parts (Suspension Arms) (2 Pcs.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toyolien 4682 Posted June 28, 2021 Does anyone know when we are likely to find out a price and release date? News seems to have gone a little quiet after the live video on Saturday. I was expecting all the info to be on shops website this morning... This is the first time I've really followed a new release so this might be how it usually happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wandy 1527 Posted June 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, toyolien said: Does anyone know when we are likely to find out a price and release date? News seems to have gone a little quiet after the live video on Saturday. I was expecting all the info to be on shops website this morning... This is the first time I've really followed a new release so this might be how it usually happens. £360 apparently, according to Model Build on Facebook. (5) Model Build | Facebook 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matisse 1581 Posted June 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wandy said: £360 apparently, according to Model Build on Facebook. (5) Model Build | Facebook Tony's Tamiya have come in at £325 apprently 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert5000 928 Posted June 28, 2021 And £305 from tjdmodels. I've read october/november as a release date somewhere. https://www.tjdmodels.com/product/tamiya-super-avante-td4-4wd-110-58696/?fbclid=IwAR1NMucyEL7N7n6N-8Vg3my180JURpgIUoW5REEUgUqNvzY4awBRtYfiOgg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites