Model: (Click to see more) 58517: Super Hotshot 2012
Status: NIB
Date: 23-Dec-2020
Comments: 4
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Ok so I'm having a hard time digesting the fact that the Tamiya Super Shot has tagged along with the HotShot and morphed into being called the Super HotShot... Why Tamiya, just.................................... why?... I'm sure there is a story behind this somewhere, given my appreciation for melodramatic stage actors (not ~ lol) I just thought I'd insert some emotions. Ok so moving forward. I consider the SuperShot as an intermediate stepping stone going from either the [Boomerang - Hotshot] to the top of the heap [BigWig]. This model strikes me as a wannabie BigWig but with a bit more swag with it's gold wheels & some subtle changes to the arrangement of the shocks but the as with anyone who knows Tamiya well, the aforementioned models are all co-related to one another. The transmissions, wishbones/suspension, steering are all fundamentally the same, a lot of the subtle or (not) so subtle are things like the BodyShells, anti roll bar placements/color. I am tempted to open one up and build since I don't have a roller, perhaps one day after me fixing the endless amounts of projects that needs restoring.

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23-Dec-2020

When the owner of the Intellectial rights of that car wanted more for royalties and Tamiya that since the 80s has become a shrewd business now multi national, flat refused to reimburse 'Mr Supershot'. Greed on the real Supershot IP owner side and equal greed on Tamiya side. Same Fox, too same Vanquish now VQS. The difference if royalties paid per kit unit would be 30 pounds or say 50 dollars more per kit , I argued this once with Tamiya who said 50 dollars more would limit their market considerably, and that the older collector would pay more was naval gazing!
Straight from horses mouth.
So if IP can be gained sans extra fees fine you get a re re plus the odd refinement, say Frog with new shocks etc if IP will higher then you go from Supershot to Superhotshot.
Btw same applies to Freightliner Coronado, being called Knight Hauler. King Hauler is a Freightliner sans badge NOT a Peterbilt or Kenworth both owned by Paccar Industries who.wanted a large IP payment hence never entertained by Tamiya.
At least Grand Hauler was customised so badge or no badge a Freightliner custom version, so got by on that one. So in US tractors only Ford Aeromax, Freightliner Cascadia and indeed Grand Hauler are authentic. The Knight Hauler is not, nor the King Hauler or Globe Liner that are in fact 95 percent Freightliner trucks as Tamiya has a semi licence with Daimler.

This is a legal issue, as many buggies contrary to popular myth indeed were based on real runners - now probably a heap of rusting junk in a lock up in California, but their IP value is lasting and can be argued again in Perpetuity.

Dirt-Racer

24-Dec-2020

Hmm, not sure who our Mr Phantom is, perhaps he's on the 'pulling me leg' spree, I don't know for certain. I am on the lookout for some information on this, so far this is what I found regarding the name re-release. [Click here] ..

They state this on their website. It seems plausible.

Monday, December 3, 2012
Tamiya Super HotShot (2012)
The Tamiya Super HotShot (58517) is a faithful re-release of the original Tamiya Super Shot (58054) from 1986. It is unclear why Tamiya renamed the re-release under the 'Hot Shot' moniker as there doesn't seem to be any known licensing or trademark issue with the name 'Super Shot'. However, Tamiya did a good job of keeping the spirit of the original alive by using the same stars-inside-the-O's font style in the model name as the original which makes it instantly recognizable. Most people that remember the original will ask 'Is that really the Super Shot?' To dispell any rumors to the contrary, the first bullet item on the lower-left of the box states 'Improved re-release version of item 58054 from 1986.'

30-Dec-2020

In layman's terms then:
SUPERSHOT was a running dune buggy in California, Tamiya scaled in to 1 to 10 size , paid a basic fee for their trouble and time. The owner of said car probably flattered that his dune buggy was featured as model car similar issue Rough Rider ...
Tamiya in 2012 wanted to reissue it , the chassis belonged to Tamiya the body shell Intellectual rights names and sponsors to their respective owners that is why Tamiya changed names to stop royalty payments.

This is so simple to understand you dont need to be an IP lawyer at Nabarro Nathanson LLP to understand !! Tamiya cut costs and corners as the owners of the car got greedy and sponsor labels also wanted a slice of the action.

It is THAT simple. This question ' why didTamiya change models names not others, reply ad infinitum some owners of IP not greedy others very greedy.

Dirt-Racer

31-Dec-2020

Our Phantom guy strikes again, only this time, no holds barred and on steroids!!.

If you want to be taken seriously which I'm almost certain you are, given your passion on this story why don't you log on your TC account? Either you're the owner of this place of one of the mods.

Come on, I won't bite.


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